Vault of Night 6 Shrine

[ZeroTakenaka]

Genuine question: Rest of the Eladrin shrines?

Those are only for your character for SP and HP... you'd still have to have an available raiser to get the character up.

[Alabore]

Those are only for your character for SP and HP... you'd still have to have an available raiser to get the character up.

Good point.
Basically, it's either a Siberys cake or lost loot.

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+1 to Res Shrines after Quest Completion.

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EDIT:

No cake in raid, so just lost loot.
Tough.
WAI?

[sirgog]

Good point.
Basically, it's either a Siberys cake or lost loot.

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+1 to Res Shrines after Quest Completion.

Once more, it's a raid, siberys cakes are not allowed.

/signed.

Doesn't really affect me as I don't run the Dragon on anything other than epic (I don't bother with it while levelling) and in an epic run even barbarians can usually raise, but it's a good suggestion for those that like doing this raid at-level.

[BFD20001]

Common request, and still a good one.

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In the early days of DDO they were quite ok with a half dead party missing out on the final chest.

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Heck, the way it worked then you could see two raid loot pieces and not touch them if the group leader was dead.

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Since then they realized this was "unfun"

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and ensured there was a rez shrine at the end of new raids, and even retrofitted some old ones...but somehow not Von6.

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It definately needs an ethereal rez shrine on completion.

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well, 3 out of 6 is 50% I suppose

[rjedi]

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well, 3 out of 6 is 50% I suppose

care to explain instead of just throwing out blank statements?

I have read plenty of loriens post and trust him a lot more then someone with a disabled rep with 4 post

[Glenalth]

Had a Titan pug where the cleric ran out of raise dead components and didn't carry scrolls.

4 dead people, 3 raises available from clickies...

Had people roll on raises.

[BossOfEarth]

Had people roll on raises.

That is hardcore! :CX

[ZeroTakenaka]

Had a Titan pug where the cleric ran out of raise dead components and didn't carry scrolls.

4 dead people, 3 raises available from clickies...

Had people roll on raises.

That would be funny...

Also Restless Isles needs an ethereal raise shrine.

[Mister_Peace]

As far as I know, Rest of the Eladrin and Ethereal shrines don't work in raids, but the Cake -> Djinn -> Shrine works.

[Raveneia]

Sorry I don't agree

healers shouldn't be dead in the first place (unless they are not healing themselves)
other classes can gain some umd and even some pallys have the raise feat at I think lev 9?
also res cakes are available from the store I'm sure at least 1 out of 12 people could of purchased one to raise one of the healers.

really no excuse to die in von6, esp if you are a healer..means your not doing your job and shouldn't be healing in the first place.
later on you get deathpact its times like these when you need it.

try epic vons and then come back and ask for a shrine :P

It's called a CHALLENGE!!

[TheDearLeader]

Completion should equal a Shrine.

Implementation... go!

Technically, it could always be there. If it was behind Velah, and was always available for use, anyone who clicked it would be insta-killed again by the Firewalls under Velah. So... yeah. It wouldn't necessarily need to "appear", so much as always exist.

[IAmDesolator3]

why doesn't one single person replying to this have a ring of the ancestors? I do! Or make a constitution green steel item with raise dead charges. I'm a wizard and I can res 1 person per rest, come on!

[TheDearLeader]

why doesn't one single person replying to this have a ring of the ancestors? I do! Or make a constitution green steel item with raise dead charges. I'm a wizard and I can res 1 person per rest, come on!

This has been mentioned.

This was an at-level VON 6 run.

No indication is given that anyone in party was a TR. Or, if they were, they were one of the people that was a corpse.

Ring of the Ancestors is more believable, if only slightly.

Were it an Epic, one person alive at the end would be enough, because almost everyone at that point has managed to find some way to Raise party members. At level 10-12? Maybe not so much.

[ZeroTakenaka]

Sorry I don't agree

healers shouldn't be dead in the first place (unless they are not healing themselves)
other classes can gain some umd and even some pallys have the raise feat at I think lev 9?
also res cakes are available from the store I'm sure at least 1 out of 12 people could of purchased one to raise one of the healers.

really no excuse to die in von6, esp if you are a healer..means your not doing your job and shouldn't be healing in the first place.
later on you get deathpact its times like these when you need it.

try epic vons and then come back and ask for a shrine :P

It's called a CHALLENGE!!

Also, CAKES DON'T WORK IN RAIDS. Anyways, how about YOU die and being unable to rez and unable to get raid loot?

[Lorz]

Also, CAKES DON'T WORK IN RAIDS. Anyways, how about YOU die and being unable to rez and unable to get raid loot?

Been there done that....it made me a better player and my toons now all work on rezzing early on.

When you die...there are real penalties.....I learned "Dont Die"


Rez ring lvl 11
Rez scroll lvl 7

[Pape_27]

As far as I know, Rest of the Eladrin and Ethereal shrines don't work in raids, but the Cake -> Djinn -> Shrine works.

Cakes dont work

see for yourself - check the last line

[ZeroTakenaka]

Been there done that....it made me a better player and my toons now all work on rezzing early on.

When you die...there are real penalties.....I learned "Dont Die"


Rez ring lvl 11
Rez scroll lvl 7

The resurrection ring is only available in the restless isles as a rare drop. (Although it is nice)

As for the raise dead scroll there are two problems:

A. You have to have someone with enough UMD ALIVE to raise. (Bards can do this with a 20% or so chance with a max of maybe 50% chance if the bard is alive.
B. Some players don't carry these scrolls until their UMD is close enough.

[Hendrik]

Sub Collectible Turn-in for Raise Clicky.

[ZeroTakenaka]

Sub Collectible Turn-in for Raise Clicky.

It's been said multiple times... This was an at-level run of von6. Can't do Subterrane.

[Glenalth]

Cakes dont work

see for yourself - check the last line

He was talking about the Djinni of the Cake, not Spirit Cakes.

The Djinni cakes did work in raids, but you'd have to be lucky enough to still have a person holding onto their Djinni after all these years AND have them be willing to waste it on a shrine.