Tank IT and Spank IT

[elraido]

If you want a sword and board, you either need Bastard Sword of Khopesh. My main last night tanked VoD on normal....he is a human pure 20 build. He didn't need to drink a single pot and he wasn't shielded up either. Granted it is normal...but if you want more info on the build, pm me. But it is gear intensive

[Link_omega]

I have multiple dps characters my primary one pure dps i converted into what ur referring to as turtle up tank and do just fine atm with gear mentioned so far.

But lacking in certain categories hence why planning out for next life.

Want the one im making to be pure tank build for my guild.

You can leave my thread if you want to continue harassing me.

Just because of what im creating is of no use to you atm does not mean it is not useful to others!

If you want to be of some help could point out possible better gear options or what not.

[Link_omega]

i can tank fine on normal for all raids atm i am aiming for hard and up.

[Link_omega]

aka.
requirements
600+hp for hard ultimately want to score 800+(overkill) with all gear options, 70+ intimidate,
high as possible saves as one can get, possibly evasion if saves are high enough
hound
hard: intimidate 60+ atm or 65 been awhile 59 doesnt work...
elite: intimidate 70+

believe
chrono
epic: intimidate 65+ possibly lower... not many guilds on our server currently geared enough for this one yet...

etc..

[Nyvn]

There are several tank builds that are viable at doing more than taking a hit

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=216140

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=124254

I know these are fighter builds but they're not to hard to adapt to Paladin.

[Link_omega]

ty nyvn once again. cannon fodder post had some viable and thus usefull information twink up my build a little post an update on first page in awhile.

[Eladiun]

ty nyvn once again. cannon fodder post had some viable and thus usefull information twink up my build a little post an update on first page in awhile.

Notice something about both of those builds...they do not sacrifice the primary DPS role for a 'tanking' role. You can have intim and high ac while maintaining respectable DPS. I stand by my statement a 9 strength is not viable on any melee class.

A build that only intims and shield blocks will not be useful. A build that can do this when necessary but still does solid DPS will be useful.

[Nyvn]

Well if standing there taking a beating is your bag of tea then go for it. With LR/TRs available now it's no longer a reroll situation if you find a character unplayable. I would however recommend being able to switch to some type of offensive mode for when it's called on.

[elraido]

Well if standing there taking a beating is your bag of tea then go for it. With LR/TRs available now it's no longer a reroll situation if you find a character unplayable. I would however recommend being able to switch to some type of offensive mode for when it's called on.

The thing is, my main can do DPS, hit a 81 standing ac self buffed, 85 blocking, and higher yet with bard buffs, has dr capabilities, can self heal like a mofo, mid 60's intim. He has a plain jane 28 str not in stance, no buffs, no pots etc. When I need to be in AC mode, I switch off power attack, turn on combat ex, recite scrolls, stance, and spam intim. when things call for it, then you go back into DPS mode....criting for 145 base and burst damage every 4th swing. Can I out dps a good fighter or barb, no...but I don't need to. But I also know, I don't have to gimp myself with a super low str to get a good ac, and intim.

[Eladiun]

With LR/TRs available now it's no longer a reroll situation if you find a character unplayable. I would however recommend being able to switch to some type of offensive mode for when it's called on.

He would also need a name change because rolling around on a 9 strength turtle paly would get you a prime spot on a lot of DNP lists.

[Link_omega]

updated first page build still need to make some more changes.

[Eladiun]

Much better..

Change int to11 move those points to dex and strength and eat a +2 int tome to make the pre-req for CE.
4 level ups in str 1 in cha
I would drop the greater mark and take power attack Globe isn't that useful the only time I ever really even use it on my wizard is the Hound.
Drop the Lesser as well you will always get Mass Protected.
Also max UMD skill points.
I would dump FoP or feat swap at higher levels where you generally run around with FoM anyway.

[elraido]

Much better..

Change int to11 move those points to dex and strength and eat a +2 int tome to make the pre-req for CE.
4 level ups in str 1 in cha
I would drop the greater mark and take power attack Globe isn't that useful the only time I ever really even use it on my wizard is the Hound.
Drop the Lesser as well you will always get Mass Protected.
Also max UMD skill points.
I would dump FoP or feat swap at higher levels where you generally run around with FoM anyway.

I agree with this. A +2 int tome is cheap enough. You don't really want to use combat ex before level 7 anyway. The -5 to hit is just too great. YOu can use the poor mans version of it in defensive fighting instead.

[Tirkan]

I've used the Greater DMark of Sentinel - it's nearly worthless, definitely not worth a feat slot, much less three. The Lesser is -almost- as bad, but it is marginally useful on short-man PUG or solo questing....not something you'd really have to worry about in Raid Groups.

[Link_omega]

oi ya was thinking about that esp since i dont have chipped sword -> epic chimera fang yet. hmm if anything i want make sure if i need swap feat out lvl 20 that its using free feet swap via quest. hmm FoP definetly > iron will for this build. guess if i need swap feat out it be that one at lv 12 / 20 (12 if i find that not really being affectecd).



hmm +2 tomes not cheap on our server about 300-600k each
already have +2 con tome about halfway to 20 mark for reavers hopefully pick up something nice.
might need make alot of adjusments then ill post new build .

[Link_omega]

fascinating prob denieth intimidate 2-4 requires lesser and greater unless this is just ddo generator prob?...

[HallowedOne]

I'd really think you should not take the Item Defense line nor getting past Paladin/racial Toughness beyond II. Those AP's invested on these abilities could be used to boost up your attack like Sacrifice and Smites.

You spend 3 AP's on the 1st 2 tiers of hp for a +20 HP but now you're spending +7 for another 20. Is it realy worth it?

Your optimal gear will probably be all bound, and even so, gear getting broken is like the least of your problems.

[Link_omega]

hmm on my fighter item defense musta saved me 200k+ in item damage easly item might not be broken when its bound but still its money saver for long run. hmm took 3 points for D. intimi. and distributed to human versatility worked out nicely. hmm since dont have +1 exception con to stack with +1 human constitution and +10 racial toughness paladin toughness IV was more efficient in terms of skill points could take p.t. IV points put into human versatility leaving me with 1 free floating point.

[Link_omega]

making more adjustments updated first page with some minor updates. updated first page again. hmm cross ranked umd kinda bites >_<

[Nyvn]

I realize that you have khopeshes banked from your current life, but you could increase your DPS in offensive mode while retaining DPS in shield mode by;

1: Drop Khopesh

2: Pick up Improved Critical

3: Use a scimitar for shield mode

4: Use a two handed weapon for offensive mode.