Viable Ranged DPS?

[googatron]

Before I say anything else, The following character planner has been posted on an old version.. so I think I would have a few extra AP... but otherwise I dont think anything vital has changed.

Fighter 14/ Rogue 6

The aim of this build is to take advantage of the mechanic I's Int bonus to repeaters, and the fighters insane feat selection. The end result is from what I can gather.. pretty decent Damage for a ranged character and the ability to do traps in most places.

The stats:
INT:
Int is 27 at 20. Adding a +6 item, +2 airship, +2 Exceptional and +1 alchemical ends the Int value at 38, Viable damage boost for ranged.

DEX:
The Dex is 23 at 20. Adding A +6 item, +2 airship +2 exceptional and +1 alchemical end the Dex value at 34, Viable Chance to hit for ranged.

CON:
14 at 20 with +6 item, +2 airship, +2 Exceptional is 24... nothing amazing but with the fighter toughness line I believe its more than enough.

All in all, on mobs vulnerable to sneak attack and criticals I believe the damage output of this ranged character might actualy be viable with the fix to repeaters. Taking advantage of the fighters flanking mastery and improved critical feats should dramaticly increase the dps output. I threw in hamstring at the end because I heared somewhere that it was usable with ranged in a recent update, so I figured it would save some rage from melee when Kiting was a do or die perogitive. (also I had an extra feat left over with nothing else worthwhile to use it with since many shot doesnt work on repeaters... that would be a tad OP with Imp Prec shot/sneak attacks hitting 3 at a time on multiple targets...

Feed back? is this idea even worth the investment? Or should I scrap it and try on an updated planner? I'd appreciate any and all feedback.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
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googs 
Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Female
(14 Fighter \ 6 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 318
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 15
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(30 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                    11
Dexterity            17                    23
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         20                    27
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             10                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    27
Bluff                 0                     2
Concentration         1                     3
Diplomacy             4                    11
Disable Device        9                    31
Haggle                4                    11
Heal                 -1                     1
Hide                  7                    18
Intimidate            0                     2
Jump                  3                    11
Listen                3                    13
Move Silently         7                    18
Open Lock             7                    29
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                5                    11
Search                9                    33
Spot                  3                    24
Swim                 -1                     1
Tumble                7                    16
Use Magic Device      4                    20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Heavy Crossbow
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II


Level 5 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Repeating Heavy Crossbow Specialization I


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy IV


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Cold Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Electric Trap Lore I


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Hamstring
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

[googatron]

Just read up that the drow melee and ranged lines are getting an increase via merg and so is the SR line (being removed and becoming static)

This would mean an inate SR to help with the low will on this build.

And the possibility of swaping out a few un nessesary feats in favor of Weapon Finese and a few 2 weapong fighting feats for a viable melee option with rapiers (and the rapier damage/attack line)

[Deathdefy]

Hey. Looks interesting and fun!

My suggestion would be to consider taking 2 Ranger instead of your last 2 Fighter. You won't 'lose' a Fighter bonus feat as you get Rapid Shot for free at Ranger 2.

The perks of Ranger 2 apart from Rapid Shot are: 2WF (Meh), Bow Strength and a Favoured Enemy, as well as access to Ranger Dex +1 and Favoured Enemy Damage +1 as enhancements.

Which, to my mind, probably beat out Fighter 13 and 14s access to an extra action boost and flanking bonus.

You could, if you were willing, take Manyshot, and bust it out when it's off cooldown on a swapped in Longbow of awesomeness. I'm totally unsure if that would even be worthwhile given your Int Mod relative to your Str, and the loss of the Hamstring feat (which sounds potentially awesome if it does work on ranged).

[googatron]

Hey. Looks interesting and fun!

My suggestion would be to consider taking 2 Ranger instead of your last 2 Fighter. You won't 'lose' a Fighter bonus feat as you get Rapid Shot for free at Ranger 2.

The perks of Ranger 2 apart from Rapid Shot are: 2WF (Meh), Bow Strength and a Favoured Enemy, as well as access to Ranger Dex +1 and Favoured Enemy Damage +1 as enhancements.

Which, to my mind, probably beat out Fighter 13 and 14s access to an extra action boost and flanking bonus.

You could, if you were willing, take Manyshot, and bust it out when it's off cooldown on a swapped in Longbow of awesomeness. I'm totally unsure if that would even be worthwhile given your Int Mod relative to your Str, and the loss of the Hamstring feat (which sounds potentially awesome if it does work on ranged).

I looked at ranger, but Bow strength is reletivly useless since this build utilizes crossbows... and that is already covered by Int, the Favored enemy would actualy be very nice, but to get that I would lose a final rank of flanking bonus which I think is an even trade off in the end.. factoring the favored enhancments... Buuut It could be worth looking into... thanks for the idea, ill crunch some numbers tomorrow!

Also, manyshot with a swaped out longbow or equivilent shortbow would possibly end up with less damage considering the bow would have a zero damage modifier compared to the int mod on the x-bows..

[googatron]

bump

[irilian]

I was looking at your last 6 levels, that being of fighter, you have as you said pretty much no useful feats? why not do 12 rog/8 fighter then?

You'd still get the majority of fighter feats, only tradeoff would be greater spec (+2 stacked damage) and -1 BaB, for an extra 2d6 sneak damage? (that does apply yes?) oh, and I suppose the fighter HP, though with the extra skill points you might actually make some of your skills (like hide/move silently?) more effective.

Did I just necro something? oops in advance

Edit: also with rogue you get the heavy repeater feat free and one bonus feat at 10 rogue or something

[Jiirix]

ONT I would second the 2 levels of ranger, the free feats are that nice. And you can use healing wands early.

OFFT: Viable Ranged DPS? Make him a pure halfing assasin and ask the freindly horc barb to throw you towards the mobs. Death from above