Update 8 named items thread

[Irinis]

Are you daft? It'd be competing with Charged Gauntlets, Raven's Talons, Glacier, Spectrals, and Gloves of the Claw.

Bard's Cloak is a nice little item, but +6 charisma is easy to slot in (anything with a colorless slot can cover that), and the Stormsinger cloak is only behind by 4 points in Perform. Considering how easy it is to get even a Warchanter's DC to the "mobs fail their save on a 19" point*, the 4 points won't even matter on Epic. Greater Command at DC 15 won't hit anything by the time you can even run VoD, so that's pointless.

So for your -4 Perform and the incredibly minor drawback of having to slot Charisma 6 elsewhere, you gain 1 song/5 minutes on an item you'll actually want to keep equipped long enough for it to work (unlike the rapier), resistance 4, and sonic guard. Overall a win, IMO.

*16 charisma (8 base, +2 tome, +6 item) (+3), 18 ranks in Perform (+18), +11 Perform from the cloak (+11), Greater Heroism (+4), Focusing Chant (+1), total +37 vs. Will with minimum investment. Given that Warchanters can and often do put a few more points into Charisma than the minimum, you'll often have +40 or better.

The new cloak is nice, but at level 20 it'd be competing with Epic Silver Concord's Charisma+7 and +3 competence bonus to charisma skills... are these new items capable of being made epic?

[Backley]

are these new items capable of being made epic?

No, there is no Epic mode on the new quests. I doubt we will see any new Epic quests until they re-do the whole system.

[Backley]

From the updated release notes:

NEW: The Blade of Fury can now be split into two shortwords instead of a single greatsword when upgraded in the Cauldron of Sora Katra.

Anyone tried that? Need mote specifics! Finesseable weapons!

[Backley]

I added the Update 8 crafting to the wiki at http://ddowiki.com/page/Cauldron_of_Sora_Katra

Please help edit that.

[maddmatt70]

The new cloak is nice, but at level 20 it'd be competing with Epic Silver Concord's Charisma+7 and +3 competence bonus to charisma skills... are these new items capable of being made epic?

I prefer the Venomous cloak personally +7 con, green slot, poison guard and 1/3 of the way to the lesser abashi set, not to mention keeps the ring slots free for tower rings.

[Xenus_Paradox]

The new cloak is nice, but at level 20 it'd be competing with Epic Silver Concord's Charisma+7 and +3 competence bonus to charisma skills... are these new items capable of being made epic?

Still less competitive than the glove slot. You can get +7 Charisma, Command, and Prot 6 with a Yellow slot on the Ring of the Silver Concord, which can be a problem if you plan on using two Tower sets. Bards, though, are likely to be using the Torc, which takes away one of your sets anyhow.

[dTarkanan]

What you're assuming is that an item (excluding melee weapons) should have ML equal to the sum of it's components' MLs. That's how the random loot-gen works, but it's a bad rule for designing desirable items. Just look at how any loot-gen item with more than one enchantment on it is vendor trash. Really, the power of an item is mostly determined by its most powerful enchantment. Any weaker enchantments on it are icing that make it potentially easier to slot.

This is especially true on a quarterstaff that takes up two slots. Taken in that light, it's basically a Greater Transmutation focus sceptor and a Superior Potency VI sceptor glued together, with a bit of extra icing thrown in.

Getting rid of the need for both a +6 Int item (at 1 level earlier, no less) and a concentration item are hardly 'icing'.

I would really like to know which quest the cloak comes from, tho.

[Okwono]

I haven't seen any screenshots of them yet but if anyone gets the chance could you post pictures of what the Garments of Equilibrium and Master Transmuter's Staff look like when worn.

[Backley]

I haven't seen any screenshots of them yet but if anyone gets the chance could you post pictures of what the Garments of Equilibrium and Master Transmuter's Staff look like when worn.

Master Transmuter's Staff uses the looks of the Staff of Arcane Power.

[Wurmwood]

This is what the master transmuters staff looks like. Nevermind the robe as I was wearing one of the cosmetic enhancements.

[Zzevel]

Sorry, I know I am a little late to the party but really, you approve? What is next?

lvl 8 for +5
lvl 14 for Sup Pot VI
lvl 13 for Int +6
lvl 9 for Concentration +10
lvl 10+ for greater transmutation focus

all for the cost of a lvl 12 item.

Give me a break, the power creep of items coming down the tubes is stunningly stupid. Apparently we did not learn anything from the green steel experiment.

/signed, simply ******** lego mashing

[Valindria]

Was there another qstaff (other than transmuters staff) in this thread before or did I dream it?

[Glenalth]

Was there another qstaff (other than transmuters staff) in this thread before or did I dream it?

Yup, new woo woo stick.

[Hokonoso]

Yup, new woo woo stick.

after i finally ground out one for all my castes/accounts and a new woo woo stick comes out!!!!! oh well, this will help new ppl which is good.. the current woo woo grind is painful to new players imo.

[lethargos]

The stonedust wraps atleast +10? Right, like +12?
The handwraps are decent enough. Im sure those will find usage even without the +10+.

[Valindria]

Yup, new woo woo stick.

Can I get a picture or it please. I couldn't seem to find it. Or at least the stats.

Thanks.

[Glenalth]

It's in the thread about the cauldron loots.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=285715

[DethTrip]

Can a Dev please look at upgrading the Bard ToD Sets?

Compare this new item Anthem, +11 perform, +4 resists, and sonic guard to the SS ToD Set

Spell Singer (Brd)
◦Shiona's Pendant - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [A New Invasion]
◦Shiona's Seal - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Dexterity +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: 2 additional Bard songs per rest

I see lots of issues with the bard ToD sets, but really if you look at this set bonus: 2 more songs for the two items compared to +1 song regen every 5 minute it's an easy choice. The ring should be +6 Charisma +1 Exceptional Charisma. The set bonus should be something helpful to a SS.


The whole sets should be looked at. All of the bard necklaces are identical. The set bonuses are a little lackluster but SS is especially bad.


Virtuoso (Brd)
◦Smedgar's Necklace - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [Bastion of Power]
◦Smedgar's Ring - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Dexterity +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: Additional Bard Song per rest, Extend Spell 2 Spell Points less

Additonal songs to a Virtuoso is wasted, My level 20 Virt II has 31 songs and they regen. Extend costing 2 less points is nice but not enough overall. One could argue for Exceptional Dexterity on a Virtuoso however I think Con, Str, or Cha would also make more sense. I would say WC= STR, SS= CHA, Virt = CON would keep the sets slightly different and be helpful.


Warchanter (Brd)
◦Torin's Choker - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [Sins of Attrition]
◦Warchanter's Band - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Strength +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: Additional Bard Songs after resting, Maximize Spell costs 4 Spell Points less, Extend Spell costs 1 Spell Point less

The warchanter set bonus should give either a damage or health boost. 10 extra hit points, or damage like some of the other sets.


Overall ideas:
- Add Anthem as a set bonus or to necklace
- Add +15 perform to necklaces
- Add Sonic Damage on hit (set bonus)
- Greater Enchant Focus (SS)

/signed

[redgod]

The stonedust wraps atleast +10? Right, like +12?
The handwraps are decent enough. Im sure those will find usage even without the +10+.

high end monk dc's stun just fine even at +6 and lesser vamp makes these sweet and useable even in epic

[Indoran]

Can a Dev please look at upgrading the Bard ToD Sets?

Compare this new item Anthem, +11 perform, +4 resists, and sonic guard to the SS ToD Set

Spell Singer (Brd)
◦Shiona's Pendant - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [A New Invasion]
◦Shiona's Seal - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Dexterity +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: 2 additional Bard songs per rest

I see lots of issues with the bard ToD sets, but really if you look at this set bonus: 2 more songs for the two items compared to +1 song regen every 5 minute it's an easy choice. The ring should be +6 Charisma +1 Exceptional Charisma. The set bonus should be something helpful to a SS.


The whole sets should be looked at. All of the bard necklaces are identical. The set bonuses are a little lackluster but SS is especially bad.


Virtuoso (Brd)
◦Smedgar's Necklace - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [Bastion of Power]
◦Smedgar's Ring - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Dexterity +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: Additional Bard Song per rest, Extend Spell 2 Spell Points less

Additonal songs to a Virtuoso is wasted, My level 20 Virt II has 31 songs and they regen. Extend costing 2 less points is nice but not enough overall. One could argue for Exceptional Dexterity on a Virtuoso however I think Con, Str, or Cha would also make more sense. I would say WC= STR, SS= CHA, Virt = CON would keep the sets slightly different and be helpful.


Warchanter (Brd)
◦Torin's Choker - Necklace: Superior Potency VI, Wizardry VI [Sins of Attrition]
◦Warchanter's Band - Ring: Charisma +6, Exceptional Strength +1, Incredible Potential
◦Set Bonus: Additional Bard Songs after resting, Maximize Spell costs 4 Spell Points less, Extend Spell costs 1 Spell Point less

The warchanter set bonus should give either a damage or health boost. 10 extra hit points, or damage like some of the other sets.


Overall ideas:
- Add Anthem as a set bonus or to necklace
- Add +15 perform to necklaces
- Add Sonic Damage on hit (set bonus)
- Greater Enchant Focus (SS)

/signed