New Ice Storm... wow!

[Dark-Star]

This may become our new go-to kiting dps spell.

Getting crit tics of 400+ on just the bludgeoning protion, ice similar numbers.

No slow so far for either me or the mobs that I have noticed, despite the description.

[patang01]

I'm guessing thats going to be the new Epic quest agro taker.

[sirgog]

400+ is a max Fire/Ice spec capstone sorc with Eardweller active is it?

[MysteryNotes]

*drool*
**** i want to install lammania right now

[LunaCee]

Well... I guess the 3rd tier arcane skeleton for Pale Masters just got its firewall alternative. (And now is going to be hated again because it can snuff out your firewalls... though at least that isn't as bad as the old sleetstorm, which snuffed out your firewall and did no damage into the bargain.)

Additionally... rares like that troglodyte shaman in Garrison's Missing Pack on elite are going to be oh so very berry painful for the unprepared playing at level. *claps hands* Great we can block the ice damage somewhat with resists... but that bludgeon is going to be the absolute DEATH of lower level parties that don't smack down trog casters fast enough.

[sirgog]

Well... I guess the 3rd tier arcane skeleton for Pale Masters just got its firewall alternative. (And now is going to be hated again because it can snuff out your firewalls... though at least that isn't as bad as the old sleetstorm, which snuffed out your firewall and did no damage into the bargain.)

Additionally... rares like that troglodyte shaman in Garrison's Missing Pack on elite are going to be oh so very berry painful for the unprepared playing at level. *claps hands* Great we can block the ice damage somewhat with resists... but that bludgeon is going to be the absolute DEATH of lower level parties that don't smack down trog casters fast enough.

They can just use the tried and tested MMO strategy of 'GTFO the fire'. Granted 'fire' here is a metaphor for a blizzard/hailstorm, but common sense still applies.

Plus, low level bosses don't have large enough HP pools for it to be a problem that you need to attack them from range for a little bit.

[articwarrior]

what is the damage of it now? or going to be...

[Dark-Star]

400+ is a max Fire/Ice spec capstone sorc with Eardweller active is it?

No, just sup pot 6, epic green blade and rahkir's set. Eardweller will be crazy.

Perhaps the biggest thing, web works in it.

[Xenus_Paradox]

No, just sup pot 6, epic green blade and rahkir's set. Eardweller will be crazy.

Perhaps the biggest thing, web works in it.

o.0

Out of curiosity, can Web beat Epic trash mob saves?

[Tirkan]

Heighten.

So yes.

[MysteryNotes]

o.0

Out of curiosity, can Web beat Epic trash mob saves?

With my 38 dc web, it works most of the time.
Especially on golems(Ice storm bludgeon would be soooo awesome on them)

[xxHazexx]

o.0

Out of curiosity, can Web beat Epic trash mob saves?

If the DC is high enough yes.

[Rodasch]

If it works out that way, it will at least help consolidate my elemental foci in general.

[Dark-Star]

Per above:

No slow so far for either me or the mobs that I have noticed, despite the description.

[Cartheron]

Ive made some quick tests regarding Ice Storm and i would like to present results here:

- it kills golems
-it has a fixed duration, not affected by extend, but dependant on caster level - at lev 10 20s econds, at lev 20 30 seconds
-both parts of dmg (bludgeoning and ice)is affected by fire/cold enchantments and superior freeze pots
-it kills golems
-damage is somehow affected by caster level - at lev 10 bludgeoning part deals about 50 dmg with superior freeze IV, at lev 20 its over 70 (no metamagic active)
-did i mention that it kills golems?

Overall, its extremally OP spell now, and i think it will trivialize alot of content that was difficult for casters - like Amrath, maxed and emped at lev 20 it deals about 170 dludgeoning dmg/tick, not even counting ice damage, it kills elite devils in elite bastion of power in 1 cast. It almost kills portals in 1 cast (about 20% hp left) in elite bastion of power.

If it will make to live servers in this form, everyone and their mother will be casting this left and right

In epics, it would be nice suplement of fw - its not so hard to position fw and ice storm well and make mobs take dmg from both spells. Damage per cast is quite similar - fw deal half dmg less/tick, but last twice as long because it can be extended.

Btw, did I mention that Ice Storm kills golems?

[Therilith]

So...

Wall of Fire was already borderline OP, and Ice Storm is even better?

Add to that the fact that fire resistance is more common than cold resistance and that IS is half physical...

No. Just... no.

[Cartheron]

Wait a second...firewall is not OP. Its extremally efficient sp wise, thats it. It has pretty low damage/second. Ice storm is better enough to wonder if its not OP, but since they in the same time taken away the ability to recast these spells as long you get a crit one, lowering possible casters dps, addition of such powerful spell is easier to understand. Most important thing this spells does is giving a choice. A choice of not casting firewall and using something else, especially in epics, where every single other damage spell is a waste of time and sp...

[Astria]

After checking ice storm out in Amrath...I vote that the spell graphic be changed to falling frost mauls instead of chunks of rock and the spell name be changed to: hammer barrier, oppenhammer, or possibly hammer time. The name difference will avoid player confusion by separating the new version from the regular D&D version.

[Therilith]

Most important thing this spells does is giving a choice.

Between Wall of Fire and Wall of Cold?

[Cartheron]

Between Wall of Fire and Wall of Cold?

Basicaly, yes, its some choice after all And I hope that its a first step to introduce Wall of Acid and Wall of Lighting - I would vote for Acid Rain for acid spell (it would be unique, because its more a DoT than persistant AoE) and some new lev 4 spell for lighting. Why lev 4 spells? To make being wizard worthwile Difficult choice between 4 excelent spells? Take that you nasty sorcs