Epic Scroll - Interactive Distribution Mechanics (IDM)

[Asketes]

I understand they are trying to create a better system, but what has been suggested is equivalent to shooting a nuclear warhead at at a plane experiencing complete engine failure.


Why not create some sort of auto-collection system:

1) A killed epic mob drops a scroll
2) A party-wide (similar to world/server wide) notice is given
"The Scroll of the Epic Staff of Inner Sight has dropped."
3) The scrolls are kept out of the party's inventory
4) When the quest completes or every party member is dead, a screen pops up that allows people to roll on the scrolls they have interest in.
5) Players select rules for the roll..

• ie: d100, a 1 automatically wins, otherwise closest to 100 wins.

6) The window must be allowed to be brought up again if accidentally closed.
7) The winners of each roll then have the appropriate scroll deposited into their inventory, regardless of them being dead or alive.




I can see this being a little tough to implement for dead party members, OR the learning curve of NOT recalling out immediately after quest completion...JUST like everything else in this game, once it becomes standardized it becomes second nature. I could see some type of tutorial maybe? (idk about the tutorial /lame?)



Thanks for reading

[Impaqt]

Not sure wht they cant incorporate Lotro's Mechanic.

you get a Pop up thats says "ITEM XXX, Roll or Pass"

Click Roll, after a few seconds, the game rolls and deposits the Item in the winners Inventory.

[Dulcimerist]

Not sure wht they cant incorporate Lotro's Mechanic.

you get a Pop up thats says "ITEM XXX, Roll or Pass"

Click Roll, after a few seconds, the game rolls and deposits the Item in the winners Inventory.

This is also how it works in the Saga MMO, and I would love to also see it in DDO.

[Asketes]

Not sure wht they cant incorporate Lotro's Mechanic.

you get a Pop up thats says "ITEM XXX, Roll or Pass"

Click Roll, after a few seconds, the game rolls and deposits the Item in the winners Inventory.

oh hell, don't tell me this... why can't they do this then?

[Auran82]

Not sure wht they cant incorporate Lotro's Mechanic.

you get a Pop up thats says "ITEM XXX, Roll or Pass"

Click Roll, after a few seconds, the game rolls and deposits the Item in the winners Inventory.

In a game like DDO where almost nothing is class/race restricted most people would roll on anything anyway, so they already implemented that with this change, lol.

If the person who gets the scroll would have passed, they can ask people who want it to roll d100.

[Chelsa]

Theoretically, the game is using the LOTRO Mechanic, it just doesn't give you the Roll or Pass option. However, since the items can be traded or sold, why would anybody not always click the Role option anyhow.

Yes, I know, my argument is really a technicality.

[Auran82]

Theoretically, the game is using the LOTRO Mechanic, it just doesn't give you the Roll or Pass option. However, since the items can be traded or sold, why would anybody not always click the Role option anyhow.

Yes, I know, my argument is really a technicality.

Because you know there are going to be situations like the following:

*newer wizard has received the Scroll of the Marilith Chain*
Barbarian: OMG I NEEDZ THAT SCROLL MORE THAN YOU GIVE ME IT OR YOU ARE BLACKLISTED
Later...
*Barbarian has received the Scroll of the Greenblade*
Wizard: Can I roll on that?
Barbarian: No I have an alt who needs it.

[kernal42]

I understand they are trying to create a better system, but what has been suggested is equivalent to shooting a nuclear warhead at at a plane experiencing complete engine failure.

Do you think your hyperbole might be, perhaps, absurd to the point of meaninglessness??

Why not create some sort of auto-collection system:

Because the current system is clearer, quicker, easier, and no worse than what you describe.

If your party wants to, arrange to re-roll on all scrolls based on need.
Or, you can just let the system work as it does now, with people greedily taking whatever unbound loot drops for them to sell/trade/use later.

Cheers,
Kernal

[butlerfamilywa]

This system will work, if the raid leader establishes that all scrolls will be rolled upon.

If someone in the party devates from this course, once it has been stipulated before the raid starts, then have everyone in the party file a grief report on said person *now that it clearly states who refused to follow the rule, IE: person who got the scroll*, and watch them be banned. As well as being removed from any further runs.

[Chelsa]

I want nobody controlling my loot, period. Despised DKP.

[butlerfamilywa]

The whole thing still to this day, revolves around the honor system. The most functional parties that I have ran Epic in.. have had the party leader loot all scrolls, and then its a full party roll at the end of the quest.

Works great, and no one complains.

Until you get an idiot who does not follow the honor system, but then again, they don't group with us for long.

[Angelus_dead]

This system will work, if the raid leader establishes that all scrolls will be rolled upon.

It's not up to the party leader.

Newsflash: The developers just established that all scrolls will be rolled upon. That's what the change is.

If someone in the party devates from this course, once it has been stipulated before the raid starts, then have everyone in the party file a grief report on said person *now that it clearly states who refused to follow the rule, IE: person who got the scroll*, and watch them be banned.

That does not make sense.

[gott_ist_tot]

This system will work, if the raid leader establishes that all scrolls will be rolled upon.

This is the biggest problem I see with the system. All the doom posts of people who have not understood implications of the implementation.

I wonder who will have enough strength to respond "no, this is like it was, but more fair, everyone rolls, always, no ninja looters" to each and every one of these, and probably fighting when some will refuse to accept the logic. Hope I'm wrong.

[tgun]

I dont understand why they dont just do it like all other bags that drop. A bag drops for everyone to click on, when you click on it you have a 1%( or whatever chance is deemed appropriate) to get a scroll. Problem solved.

[Angelus_dead]

I dont understand why they dont just do it like all other bags that drop. A bag drops for everyone to click on, when you click on it you have a 1%( or whatever chance is deemed appropriate) to get a scroll. Problem solved.

Instead of solving the problem, that would make it much worse.

[tgun]

Instead of solving the problem, that would make it much worse.

why?

[butlerfamilywa]

It'd lower the chance at scrolls.... though the system is already in affect IE the dragonshards dropping from collectable bags.

[tgun]

It would not have to lower the chance. THey would be able to set the percentage so it would be equal to it is now on average. They could even have more bags drop so you would have more chances. All the numbers could be tweaked. I am talking about the mechanic of it and as you said the mechanics to do that are already in game.

[Vengeance777]

Just make it so we can buy the scrolls with dungeon or raid tokens. Or exchange seals for scrolls. This would fix everything. No more ninja looting scrolls and no more 6 months of grinding desert epics for scrolls.

[Asketes]

To quote someone from some other *place*:



"Put the scrolls in the chests and be done with this stupid b*llsh*t."



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