34 point build

[Dreemz]

Hi! Im wondering if this build could work as a nice barb or should i improve whit some changes?


Candor The Reborn
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(20 Barbarian)
Hit Points: 412
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 20/20/25/3030
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 5
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 20 31
Dexterity 9 9
Constitution 18 21
Intelligence 7 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 1 10
Bluff -2 -2
Concentration 4 5
Diplomacy -2 -2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 8
Heal -1 -1
Hide -1 -1
Intimidate -2 -2
Jump 5 31
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently -1 -1
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot -1 -1
Swim 5 10
Tumble 0 0
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I

Level 2 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I

Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I

Level 5 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Rage I

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Featt: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II

Level 7 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I

Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction II

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II

Level 10 (Barbarian)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II

Level 11 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II

Level 13 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV

Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III

Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV

Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III

Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV

Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I

Level 19 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I

Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Enhancement: Barbarian Might
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II

[Dulcimerist]

I would skip Haggle and put the points into Intimidate for the mass debuff Barbarian Intimidate enhancement to make trips and stuns land much easier, but that's simply my own preference.

If you solo a lot, skipping Haggle to put the points into Heal can help you a lot.

I'm assuming that you don't have a shared bank account and a toon with the decent Haggle skill that can sell all of your stuff, which is why you want the Haggle on this toon?

[Dreemz]

Well got a shared bank account but simlpy to lazy to trade items over. But then again intimidate might be a better way to go. Any other tips on how to improve it? Still thinking about taking that last improved PA.

[quityourjobs]

I would lower con by 2 and add 5 dex and 1 int. +3 reflex will save your life a lot more in the long run than 20 hitpoints, +2 int tome will take you to 10 total for another skill point.

Unless you only use a Min II, drop toughness for Imp Crit: Slashing.

[Dreemz]

Well im using Mineral II like 95% of the time and more or less only Dreamspitter as a side weapon atm.
Trying to get a ESoS but its a bit hard to get.

[Calebro]

I would lower con by 2 and add 5 dex and 1 int. +3 reflex will save your life a lot more in the long run than 20 hitpoints, +2 int tome will take you to 10 total for another skill point.

Unless you only use a Min II, drop toughness for Imp Crit: Slashing.

You were doing well until you told the Barb to drop the Toughness feat....
Dropping GTHF is a much better idea. And drop Stunning Blow in earlier. It's awesome at low levels when the mobs don't have great saves. It's less useful at 18, in Amrath, where everything has great fort saves.

[rjedi]

You were doing well until you told the Barb to drop the Toughness feat....
Dropping GTHF is a much better idea. And drop Stunning Blow in earlier. It's awesome at low levels when the mobs don't have great saves. It's less useful at 18, in Amrath, where everything has great fort saves.

On a barb toughness is a toss up

You can get 700+ raging and 550ish without buffs so its really just extra padding when not raging

[Calebro]

On a barb toughness is a toss up

You can get 700+ raging and 550ish without buffs so its really just extra padding when not raging

Every class has it's own survivability factor.
Clerics and FvSs can heal themselves.
Rogues and Bards have UMD.
Paladins have LoH.
Fighters can spec to be AC tanks.
etc etc etc
Barbarians have heaps and heaps of HP.

By recommending he not take toughness, you are recommending he give up 82 hp. That's how much a Toughness feat is worth to an Half Orc Barbarian. 82 hp.
A Barbarian without Toughness is like a Wizard without Maximize.

[Nezichiend]

Every class has it's own survivability factor.
Clerics and FvSs can heal themselves.
Rogues and Bards have UMD.
Paladins have LoH.
Fighters can spec to be AC tanks.
etc etc etc
Barbarians have heaps and heaps of HP.

By recommending he not take toughness, you are recommending he give up 82 hp. That's how much a Toughness feat is worth to an Half Orc Barbarian. 82 hp.
A Barbarian without Toughness is like a Wizard without Maximize.

Everyone needs HP for survivability. Even is a clr or FVS can self-heal, they still need around 450+ hp. Paladins need hp too. Everyone needs HP. Having 700+ hp is alright on a barb. If you need toughness to break that thats cool, otherwise you really don't need it.

[quityourjobs]

You were doing well until you told the Barb to drop the Toughness feat....
Dropping GTHF is a much better idea. And drop Stunning Blow in earlier. It's awesome at low levels when the mobs don't have great saves. It's less useful at 18, in Amrath, where everything has great fort saves.

Toughness is completely unnecessary once you have the gear. If you're poorly geared I can understand your argument.

I like having a third glancing blow and 10% more glance damage, thanks.

[Boromirs]

Go 2 Fighter and grab Toughness AND stun blow !!

[Dreemz]

Well i got moste items i need(none TOD and epic), have 3 GS items and alot of other nice stuff.
Im at 700-740 HP atm whit my lvl 20 WF but i still like to get closer to the 800 mark.