Melee PvP -large scale buy in

[bendover]

Before I even start yes PvP is lame and yes it's dead. But let's take a minute from our every day raid and epic grinding to having a little different fun. I'd like to get about 12 melees together for next Saturday evening for a little tournament. Ways I've been considering to make this as even as possible as well as stipulations.

You're character MUST fight in melee combat. There is to be no ranged damage whether that's with a bow, thrower or spells. Any class is welcome. There is however to be no offensive spells, no debuffs of any kind. As far as buffing only self buffs are allowed. If your character can cast it either through spells, UMD, wand, pots (excluding DDO store pots, we aren't spending our own money here) it can be used to buff.

While you're in your fight healing is accepted. You, however, cannot use tavern food and you cannot sit around bunny hopping UMD heal scrolls constantly. A back away from melee + heal scroll pop and back into melee is acceptable. No running away so someone has to chase you to try to hit you will not be accepted. You are allowed to use all other healing at your builds exposal. Lay on hands, halfling dragonmarks, SP are allowed but only to as many as your build has. You cannot use a tavern regen to continue the healing.

As far as the actual fights are dictated everyone in the group will roll 1d100. The highest roll and the lowest roll will be paired. The second highest roll and the second lowest roll will be paid, so on and so forth. To attempt to try to remove as much "luck" as possible from deaths fights will be on a "Best of 5". This is to try prevent a lucky lightning strike or disintegrate from those silly greensteels.

This is a one large devil scale buy in. And rewards will be as followed based on entries:
12: 1st- 8 2nd- 4
10: 1st- 7 2nd- 3
8: 1st- 6 2nd- 2
6: 1st- 5 2nd- 1
Tournament will not proceed with less then 6 entries.

Weapons, tactics that are off limits:
There is to be no shield blocking. You will not be able to just shield block to allow guards to kill an opponent. You can however, block temporarily (with your weapons) to prevent a special attack (I.E. touch of death, trip, stun) but only stay blocking for a couple of seconds.

Tactics that are allowed:
Any feat, ability, skill your character possesses. Examples would be stunning, tripping, touch of death are acceptable, and based on a census of the participants we can limit these to a certain number. For example, you'd be allowed to trip once per fight. But that wouldn't limit you from stunning once or using a touch of death once. This can be agreed or disagreed upon by the group.

Weapons not allowed:
Vorpals, Limbchoppers, Vacuum II's, Dust II's, Triple Negative

-Vorpals and Limbchoppers are lame

-Vacuum II's have about a 2-3% proc rate to instantly kill on a DC 30 Will save. It can be a bit tough for melees to get even around a 20 will save self buffed so the insta kill effect here is too powerful. Triple negative isn't quite as bad as it's bypassed by deathward/deathblock.

Dust II's because they seem to be around a 3.15% proc rate to do approximately 450 points of untyped damage. The proc rate vs damage amount is too overpowered. Now before I get the whole well what about lightning II's. This isn't a comparsion thread. Their proc rate is a good 1% lower and lightning damage can be migrated to hit for mid 400's.

So here is to anyone interested in signing up.
1. Intervention
2. Spyder
3. Bruttus
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If I've failed to address anything that might be of important please feel free.

P.S. Yes PvP is lame and dead.

[Phidius]

You gotta Fraps it for both entertainment and instant replay for judgement calls.

Wife is coming back in about 36 hours (roughly), so if by "next Saturday evening" you mean the next Saturday evening that we'll encounter (tonight), I'll sign up with Stryde.

If you meant "next week's Saturday evening" I have to bow out.


Let's not take too much time from our raiding and epic-ing

[bendover]

You gotta Fraps it for both entertainment and instant replay for judgement calls.

Wife is coming back in about 36 hours (roughly), so if by "next Saturday evening" you mean the next Saturday evening that we'll encounter (tonight), I'll sign up with Stryde.

If you meant "next week's Saturday evening" I have to bow out.


Let's not take too much time from our raiding and epic-ing

I apologize it will be the evening of the 13th. Time and location will be given privately to avoid certain trolls.

[mediocresurgeon]

I thought Vacuum weapons didn't allow a save?

[bendover]

I thought Vacuum weapons didn't allow a save?

They are a DC 30 will save. I dual wield them on my rogue and also have the guard on my fvs. I've tested both of them. Unfortunately, they are too overpowered even with the will save applied to be considered "fair".

[Lifespawn]

good intentions but guard builds will just let people kill themselves no skill involved just luck

[bendover]

good intentions but guard builds will just let people kill themselves no skill involved just luck

Killing faster is always a good remedy to beat a guard build. I understand guard builds are lame and quite frankly there are only three guards I can think of that CAN one shot people. And I'm hoping that a best out of 5 between fights will limit the amount of "luck" people get from those. You are correct in the fact guards are kinda lame, but a quick trip + a couple hits from a THF barb and a guard build is done.

[spyderwolf]

i dont normally like pvp , but what the hell. ill do it on also. ill get ya the scale later today.

[platonicx]

I wonder what you gonna do with assasin III pll

[bendover]

I wonder what you gonna do with assasin III pll

What about Assassin III?

[LazyTigerLily]

What about Assassin III?

Vorpal

[Quikster]

Vorpal

Not sure if it will work against heavy fort, but it has to be a sneak attack, blindness immunity should balance that out easily.

[bendover]

Vorpal

With assassin III you have to be behind the enemy and your attack must qualify as a sneak attack. And with the current state of opportunist being bugged rogues are unable to receive sneak attacks even though they render an enemy -10% fortification.

So unless someone is going to take off their fort item for you and let you get behind them I see it high unlikely a rogue will be assassinated anyone .

[rodallec]

not from behind just not selected or aggroed by mob i think.

[bendover]

not from behind just not selected or aggroed by mob i think.

Could be, but it's PvP so who cares. Regardless rogues won't be getting a sneak attack in to be able to assassinate in the first place.

[Dexxaan]

Even though Guards and Glancing Blows destroyed PVP....I'm in.

Gotta Crunch some #'s, and determine if I'm going AC/Patience killing or Brutal 62 STR annihilation.

* Bruttus or Gearofwar.

I'll keep ya posted.


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[LazyTigerLily]

With assassin III you have to be behind the enemy and your attack must qualify as a sneak attack. And with the current state of opportunist being bugged rogues are unable to receive sneak attacks even though they render an enemy -10% fortification.

So unless someone is going to take off their fort item for you and let you get behind them I see it high unlikely a rogue will be assassinated anyone .

You don't have to be standing behind things for the vorpal strike to occur, but I digress. It was more that you said no vorpal weapons and with Assassin III a rogue is essentially a vorpal weapon

Since that wouldn't disqualify me I think I might bring mah little halfling, this sounds like it could be fun

[bendover]

You don't have to be standing behind things for the vorpal strike to occur, but I digress. It was more that you said no vorpal weapons and with Assassin III a rogue is essentially a vorpal weapon

Since that wouldn't disqualify me I think I might bring mah little halfling, this sounds like it could be fun

Regardless everyone wears 100% fort so if you roll a 20 on your rogue get through 90% of their fort (opportunist) you'll score a critical hit but won't vorpal them since the person you'll be fighting is going to have you targeted .

[spyderwolf]

remind me tonight to get that scale to ya. forgot last ngiht .

[bendover]

remind me tonight to get that scale to ya. forgot last ngiht .

I'm not worried bro, we all have plenty of time and if you want to wait til Saturday I'm not worried.