Half Orc THF Intimitank

[Lunzatis]

I am planning on building a Half Orc Intimitank that mainly uses Two Handed Weapons but will switch to a one handed weapon while using a shield. This is what I have so far. Would like to know what people think. I would like constructive criticism about the build, no posts saying that this is a stupid idea and you're ruining the half orc. If the build is not going to work in high to epic lvl dungeons, tell me and tell me why it won't. Thanks.

Lvl 20 Half Orc Fighter
Lawful Good

Starting Stats

Str - 16
Dex - 14
Con - 12
Int - 14
Wis - 8
Chr - 12

Lvl 20 Stats

Str - 34 (+2 Tome, +6 item, +5 enhancement)
Dex - 22 (+2 Tome, +6 item)
Con - 20 (+2 Tome, +6 item)
Int - 22 (+2 Tome, +6 item)
Wis - 10 (+2 Tome)
Chr - 20 (+2 Tome, +6 item)

+2 Tomes taken at lvl 7.

Feats

1. toughness
1. weapon focus: slashing
2. combat expertise
3. toughness
4. weapon specialization: slashing
6. shield mastery
6. two handed fighting
8. improved critical: slashing
9. force of personality
10. improved two handed fighting
12. skill focus intimidate
12. improved shield mastery
14. greater weapon focus: slashing
15. skill focus umd
16. greater two handed fighting
18. bullheaded
18. greater weapon specialization: slashing
20. superior weapon focus: slashing

Skills

Intimidate - 23 ranks
Jump - 23 ranks
Balance - 10 ranks
UMD - 11.5 ranks
Haggle - 6 ranks

Enhancements

Fighter Armor Class Boost IV
Fighter Armor Mastery III
Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Fighter Tower Shild Mastery III
Orcish Brute Fighting I
Orcish Extra Action Boost II
Orcish Strength II
Fighter Item Defense II
Racial Toughness II
Improved Intimidate IV
Fighter Strength III
Fighter Toughness III

I haven't thought the gear out yet except to possibly have a +6 item on most stats.

[fullpozzy]

What is your projected hit points? Con seems low. Maybe waiting till level 9 to grab combat expertise so you can lower int and raise Con. And move a few or 2 around

[Lunzatis]

With Combat Expertise along with all the armor I will have, I won't have to worry too much about Con until past 9th lvl by that time I'll have a +2 con tome added. I mean even if I get hit the enemies will do little to no damage to this character. At some point I'll have a +6 con item on the character as well which should help with hit points. Plus you can't sacrifice Int because you need all the skill points for intimidate, jump, umd, and balance.

[Aeolwind]

Considered trying to sneak EWP for bastard sword in there? It benefits from the thf feats pretty dang well.

Projected HP would be around 500ish? IIRC when I was laying out my human fighter: with 4 more con still needed 4 total toughness feats to hit 600

[Lunzatis]

If you can find three feats that I might not need please tell me. If I can get bastard sword and a couple more toughness feats with the ones I already have then I wouldn't mind but most of the feats I have are needed. This is an experimental build and any advice I can get will be appreciated. Thanks.

[Quikster]

200 fighter
100 con bonus
20 base
10 aa favor
30 gfl
50 enhancements
20 toughness item
45 shroud item
42 Toughness
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517 standing
40 sd stance
40 yugo pot
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597

A little low imo for end game tanking.


Intimitdate

23 ranks
6 sd enhancements
5 charisma mod
3 sf intimidate
2 bullheaded
4 enhancements
15 item
5 epic item
2 luck
6 shroud cha skills item
2
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73
4 gh
2 bard
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79

You'll get most raid bosses you need with this, you can use a house D skills pot to bump it 1 for elite hox if needed. Blessed candles are fairly easy to get so that shouldnt be a problem, and they are cheaper then yugo pots, though you could do that as well.

Not going to run the ac numbers as I dont know what gear you are willing to farm for

Id say drop int a few points (to 11) and bump your con up. I might also drop umd till you tr. Going half orc really hurts the idea of maxing out multiple skills imo. If you want intimitanking to be your first priority I would focus on getting the intim (which you more or less have, though theres not much room to grow if future bosses require higher skill checks) ac or dr, and the hitpoints to tank. Then focus on a secondary goal, which in this case should be dps. By going thf you almost have to pick up power attack. The bonus is just too large to pass it up. You are going to need to have a dps option, even though you are going to be an intimitank.

First what if you are running with a better tank? Should they not tank even though they are better because you dont have a dps set up? Second there are many situations in ddos end game (most situations actually) that an intimitank is not needed or wanted. In those cases you want to be able to deal out hurt. Finally it has a lot of synergy with this build, you spend lots of feats to increase your fighting capability, but dont pick up the feat that will give you the most bang for your buck. Trust me here, take power attack.

After using tanking/dps as your build focuses, its hard to do a third thing really well. Going half orc really hurts your skill situation as I said, and its not worth sacrificing in the other two areas to get it. Its certainly nice, but you can live without it this life. If you want umd tr to get the extra points.

If you drop int I would drop haggle, umd and jump. Jump really only needs to be at 10 after mods/penalties as you can max it with a 15 min jump clickie at 40. Thats really all you need. 6 ranks in haggle really isnt going to do much for you, and I already stated why not take umd this life.

Hope it gives you something to think about, gluck with the build.

[Quikster]

If you can find three feats that I might not need please tell me. If I can get bastard sword and a couple more toughness feats with the ones I already have then I wouldn't mind but most of the feats I have are needed. This is an experimental build and any advice I can get will be appreciated. Thanks.

SF UMD
Shield mastery
Superior weapons focus.

[Lunzatis]

Thanks for the advice. Once I have my +6 charisma item on I'll get the +5 for charisma since I'm adding a +2 tome at lvl 7. I'm starting to wonder if going two lvls of rogue might be an option. I wanted to keep this build pure fighter for the capstone but I'm willing to look at any possiblity. I would like to keep the shield mastery feats if possible. Thanks again.

[Quikster]

Thanks for the advice. Once I have my +6 charisma item on I'll get the +5 for charisma since I'm adding a +2 tome at lvl 7. I'm starting to wonder if going two lvls of rogue might be an option. I wanted to keep this build pure fighter for the capstone but I'm willing to look at any possiblity. I would like to keep the shield mastery feats if possible. Thanks again.

Added your cha mod for intim. UMD will look like this

11 ranks
3 skill focus
5 cha mod
2 luck
6 shroud
3 cart
1 top hat (non epic)
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31

so 35 buffed. Not horrible, but still need more hitpoints if you want to end game tank. Horoth is a nasty bugger on eilte, as is liliat on epic. At the minimum Id want to be around 650 for those, 700+ is better.

Shield mastery is fine, I was just giving you three feats you dont need to accomplish your goals. Ive had tanks with and without, and its simply not as big of a deal as most make it out to be imo. Horths main damage for an ac tank comes with the badges, and spells. His melee can be brutal as well, but you will find your going to be better off in the long run hate tanking him anyway. The only times I really turtle up on my tank is elite hox and epic dq. Other than that im usually swinging away.

[willemvh]

Hey, i started a TR intimi tank fighter myself and i got some premium advice from quickster and some others in this treath

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=280078

you want to read the 2 pages, it isn't much reading but alot of good stuff/info in there.

Have fun with the playstyle

And a first hand experience, if you plan to solo alot take your dps feats + CE asap that will do the most for you i think (at least it did for me) most of the time my ac and saves are so stupidly high that i don't need to heal.

Ow and another thing. If you wanna decently pull this off solo i recommend a couple of +2 tombs so you can spread your starter points better. Ofc it will turn out fine with 28 points / 32 points no tombs if you do it fine. but believe if your able to get the tombs do it

and on a last note i took FOP earlyer ingame around 3-4 i thought. Well worth it, with the new items from crono raid you can get that will save up there easly where it matters. no more hold for in the low lvls The first hold that landed was i believe in solo Strangletorn...

[CMPetro]

@ Lvl 20 (32 pt Champion, Not a TR)

BASE Inherent/Feat/Enchanted/Total
STR 19 2 4 5 30
DEX 10 2 - 6 18
CON 22 2 3 6 33
INT 8 2 - - 10
WIS 8 2 - 2 12
CHA 8 2 - - 10

(I could use some more items for bonuses)

Feats
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Toughness (x3)

HP standing... 681
HP Raged... 801 (STR goes up to 43, CON 44) Even more with Rage Spell, GH, ect.

My inim is a lowly 33 ATM. 22 Ranks and +11 (+7 item, +4 Enhancement) No Cha Skill, no epic yet (just hit 20) , no +15 item (just the +7 which can upgrade to an epic +5 Enh bonus that will stack with a +15 item)

So if I boost my CHA with a +6, get a +15 item, upgrade to the epic item for another +5 add a GS +6 CHA skills item, that gets me 33 -7 + 3 +15 + 5 + 6 = 55. Still a bit low, though the +25% hate from Orcish Brute Fighting IV helps alot. Down side, can not Rage and Brute Fight at the same time.

I use a 2 Hander with cleave/great cleave to keep the mobs all hating on me.

I think it can be done, but like all builds it takes planning for th items which I have really just started to do.

P.S. All recomendations welcome.