Make GS Not Bind Until Upgraded?

[h4x0r1f1c]

What is the point behind GS items being Bind on Equip?

I have a stupid GS Blank Sickle that I have no intention of upgrading.

I'd like to be able to at least sell it. Why is it Bind on Equip, seriously? Just have it Bind on Upgrade.

This would be a great and possibly easy change to implement that I'm sure everyone could enjoy.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Well it says bind on equip...so if you equipped it before upgrading it... I guess the fault is yours.

You can safely craft it and mail it or ah it or trade it and it won't bind. So, not really seeing the problem.

[k1ngp1n]

I'm going to pass up this troll-worthy post for an honest answer. Greensteel items bind-on-equip (lore wise) due to their natural magic and powerful nature. Wielding the weapon is a distinctly different event from carrying it, and so it attunes itself you.

That is totally made up. The actual answer I'd say is likely due to either (A) a coding difficulty or (B) the desire to enhance the grind. Either way, life (and I would say the future of this forum thread) goes much smoother if you just accept it (making up some BS reason why along the way of course) and move on.

[Bladedge]

Green Steel weapons have higher base damage then regular weapons and can bypass evil DR.

[systemstate]

Sometimes, while strolling through the forums, I happen across a thread that just makes me laugh.

Does anyone else finding incredibly amusing that h4x somehow got stuck with a useless greensteel sickle? I mean, it sucks and all, but... I just can't stop chuckling about it for some reason.

Bro, you need to LitII that bad boy and bring the PVP pain over in Tha Lobsta.

[kernal42]

Tradable items can take permanent damage, and nobody wants to craft on a damage greensteel blank. It's better this way.

Cheers,
Kernal

[h4x0r1f1c]

K but it's not upgrade it's just a dumb +5 Sickle and I only equipped it because I once wanted to upgrade it.

I changed my mind long since and would like to sell it as the blank it is on the AH to someone else who wants one.

It benefits me in no way and if it's not upgraded I don't see it being too special to be bind on equip.

As for it attuning itself to me.. well my will should be stronger than it's will and I should be able to go "Look stupid Sickle I don't want you so I'm going to sell you now. You don't want to mess with me I'm the bad-a that got all 5 stones to even craft your stupid blank butt so you're going to be sold now un-attune thyself or else!"

If you can sell it to a vendor you can sell it to someone on the AH! Seriously idc if it's my fault for equipping it they should change it to be Binds on Upgrade.

[h4x0r1f1c]

Tradable items can take permanent damage, and nobody wants to craft on a damage greensteel blank. It's better this way.

Cheers,
Kernal

Then they don't have to buy it. Besides nobody should be using it unless it's upgraded anyway.

It won't ever get permanently broken sitting in their inventory. Also once it's upgraded it doesn't really matter it's condition.

[Qzipoun]

it's just a dumb +5 Sickle

It's not just a dumb +5 Sickle, go test it in PVP

[kernal42]

I changed my mind long since and would like to sell it as the blank it is on the AH to someone else who wants one.

It benefits me in no way and if it's not upgraded I don't see it being too special to be bind on equip.

I'd like to unbind the mithral FP I put in the stone of change and put it back on the AH too. But I realize that's not going to happen. I made the choice to attune it, and I need to accept the consequences of my actions.

-Kernal

[kernal42]

K but it's not upgrade it's just a dumb +5 Sickle and I only equipped it because I once wanted to upgrade it.

Besides nobody should be using it unless it's upgraded anyway.

Very good!

[h4x0r1f1c]

I'd like to unbind the mithral FP I put in the stone of change and put it back on the AH too. But I realize that's not going to happen. I made the choice to attune it, and I need to accept the consequences of my actions.

-Kernal

If you can put in dragonshards to bind it to ya' they should let you put in the same amount or more to unbind it.

It was your decision to bind it to yourself and Turbine shouldn't care if you want it unbound so you should be allowed to do it.

They need to change that, too, I guess. Honestly there are minor things they should change that have no affect on them making money yet make our lives easier.

[h4x0r1f1c]

Very good!

I wanted to swing it around some stop trying to argue against my good suggestion that has nothing to do with you.

[Ainimache]

Sometimes, while strolling through the forums, I happen across a thread that just makes me laugh.

This.

It seems both sad and a little funny.

Has anyone else noticed that most posts h4x makes are about how he doesn't want to accept responsibility for his own actions? The rest seem to be how he wants the game to tailored to his play style.

On topic, it was clearly marked when you made it that it bound on equip. You probably used it, else why equip it. That means you got some benefit out of it. Maybe not the benefit you wanted, or thought it would give, but some benefit. Since you used it, and benefited from it, it's now yours. It's powerful, that's why it's bound. It's nice that it's not bound until you use it, so you can make blanks and sell/give/trade them to less lucky or less dedicated grinders...er...players. But it is powerful, so if you want to use it even once, it's yours "forever."

The reason you can sell bound stuff to vendors is because they can make use of the scrap. Vendors do not resell the items you sell to them. Even brokers don't resell bound stuff they take in. You have to assume they either have some way to melt it down or otherwise scrap it, or it's going in someone's personal museum never to be used, or sacrificed somehow to some godling or power or the like.

Going to add a comment about binding via stone of change: again, it's working as advertised. You get a significant benefit out of binding. Unbinding defeats the purpose of making it non-perma-breakable. If you could unbind at will, why not just make nothing breakable. Or, why not just make everything tradable and nothing wear at all! Wouldn't that make slime-fights easier? Also it would make fighting rust monsters in plate armor sooo much cheaper!

[k1ngp1n]

*stuff*

Once again, I'm holding back from trolling. I had this post all laid out and ready to go, and decided you weren't worth the infraction. Instead, I shall contribute this:



Isn't it cute?

[kernal42]

If you can put in dragonshards to bind it to ya' they should let you put in the same amount or more to unbind it.

It was your decision to bind it to yourself and Turbine shouldn't care if you want it unbound so you should be allowed to do it.

They need to change that, too, I guess. Honestly there are minor things they should change that have no affect on them making money yet make our lives easier.

Actually, a much better way to accomplish what you suggest is to remove permanent damage from the game entirely.

The game is better-off the way it is, of course.

-Kernal

[kernal42]

I wanted to swing it around some stop trying to argue against my good suggestion that has nothing to do with you.

If you don't want your bad suggestions critiqued, don't post them in the forums.

[krud]

Hold on to it and hope they implement GS deconstruction of some sort

[Aaxeyu]

Besides nobody should be using it unless it's upgraded anyway.

Ok, so GS items are not used before upgraded, and they bind when they are used (equiped). Hence they don't bind until you upgrade them already!

[h4x0r1f1c]

Ok, so GS items are not used before upgraded, and they bind when they are used (equiped). Hence they don't bind until you upgrade them already!

Unless you happen to swing one around first.