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    Community Member Khumbaaba's Avatar
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    Default Does anyone do VoN anymore?

    I've never run it, but a couple of my friends who have say that its getting hard to find groups.

    Are there groups out there running it regularly?

    is so, please mail, pm or post. My Pally wants to see (help kill) Velah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khumbaaba View Post
    I've never run it, but a couple of my friends who have say that its getting hard to find groups.

    Are there groups out there running it regularly?

    is so, please mail, pm or post. My Pally wants to see (help kill) Velah

    Araxus on Orien
    Some of my guildies and I on Orien just purchased VoN. I am really amped about trying it. It may be a little while, but we may be trying to flag for it soon. (Look up "Itherey")

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    I am in the process of running the newest group of alts through VON flagging now and would be happy to try and find a spot for you. Look for Jhogo in-game as he is my most played character these days.
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    There was a pug for it last night... took two tries because someone charged the dwarf and locked 5 people out... but a squelch and reform, completion. think there was an SoS, belt, 2 robes... not a bad night even with a bad apple

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    I see it run at-level occasionally, but I think many have become frustrated with those attempts. VoN5 is typically a long, drawn-out affair due to a large number of people not knowing the quest and not listening to whoever is trying to lead (often multiple persons, which doesn't help). Then there's a high chance of failure from someone charging the dwarf (see above) or a wipe in VoN6 due to poorly equipped toons (low hp, no fort, etc). I usually try to hit a few of these while levelling (VoN5 is decent exp, plus the chance at raid loot), but the success rate isn't high.

    Higher-level groups (usually open 10-20) tend to take only 20-30 min in VoN5 and have an excellent success rate. There were a lot of these recently, but I believe those posting the LFMs either got what they wanted or started running VoN6 epic instead.

    In any case, the raid isn't run as much as other raids (DQ, Fate, Shroud, etc), but there are postings from time to time.

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    I run VON all the time when I can get a group my name is Quazicotl lev 18 rogue I love the traps.

    I play 12am est- 4 to 5 am est feel free to look for me
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    Edit: not a requirement but construct and dragon bane help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khumbaaba View Post
    I've never run it, but a couple of my friends who have say that its getting hard to find groups.

    Are there groups out there running it regularly?

    is so, please mail, pm or post. My Pally wants to see (help kill) Velah

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    I ran it the other day with an at-level PuG. The xp is great for this chain. We did a few quests around stormreach and I was like "lets do Von 1-4". The response was a resounding unanimous YES!!! It's actually popular with players that have done it and have the module because it's easy and has good xp.

    Start your own group. It will fill fast right now with all these new horc characters
    "Von 1-4 dragon flagging quests - p2p"
    Reserve a spot for a wizard (for int runes and casting), trap smith, healer (or specify BYOH) and suggest everyone get deathblock items for the beholders for a smooth run.

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    Running these at level sounds difficult if you need heavy fortification and deathblock.

    Would the tangleroot clicky and a light fort item do? I suppose one could be sneaky and get a nightforged gorget.

    What's the min gear you should have for an effective run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khumbaaba View Post
    Running these at level sounds difficult if you need heavy fortification and deathblock.
    If you're running it at level and have good hit points, Moderate Fort will probably
    get you through, but there are lot of heavy hitters in there, so Heavy is better.

    You need deathblock because of the beholders - death ward won't cut it.
    Get a robe - you can slap it on when the beholders pop, and put your armor
    back on afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgentMage View Post
    If you're running it at level and have good hit points, Moderate Fort will probably
    get you through, but there are lot of heavy hitters in there, so Heavy is better.

    You need deathblock because of the beholders - death ward won't cut it.
    Get a robe - you can slap it on when the beholders pop, and put your armor
    back on afterward.
    might be brain farting but if he is just talking about the raid then the robe wouldnt be needed correct however in jungle of khyber it is and the quest following.

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    Okay, so I'll have to sneak through the Sovereign Past quest tonight for some heavy fort.

    I'm waffling on picking up the Red Fens pack. The Sacred Helm from there will give deathblock. Not sure how good I feel about taking off my tin can for a robe when fighting a beholder.

    I suppose necro 2 can give that silver flame pendant, but that pack is not high on my list of buyables (only want 1&4).

    I'll start at the AH for some deathblock. Not too sure what its worth tho. I've got a lvl12 mabar cloak that i'l be wearing in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermespan View Post
    I ran it the other day with an at-level PuG. The xp is great for this chain. We did a few quests around stormreach and I was like "lets do Von 1-4". The response was a resounding unanimous YES!!! It's actually popular with players that have done it and have the module because it's easy and has good xp.
    VON3 is one of the best level-appropriate XP quests, right up there with Shadow Crypt and Wiz King.

    VON5/6 is ok XP at level, but a little more tedious without abundant step or leap of faith. At level 20, it's trivial to complete VON 5/6 with four people if you're looking to farm completions or base items. Velah has laughable hitpoints on anything but epic.
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    I run it on epic only. It's worth the effort for the SoS and several other potential items that drop. Red scales also sell for quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoolcannon View Post
    I run it on epic only. It's worth the effort for the SoS and several other potential items that drop. Red scales also sell for quite a bit.
    Will SoS drop on lower difficulty levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khumbaaba View Post
    Will SoS drop on lower difficulty levels?
    Yes. Iirc, I got one on normal.

    But in order to epicify the SoS you need to do epic quests. I'm not sure if there are parts of the eSoS (Shard/Scroll/Seal) which drop exclusively in EVoN5-6, but I am also interested in an answer to the question.

    There are sometimes VoN PUGs up. Some of these are done by myself and some are the nice "Do not look at the dwarf, do not talk to the dwarf; the dwarf is not your friend" VoNs.
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    VoN is great for xp and loot. There is usually at least one newbie in the group and it can be fun helping someone learn the raid. It also has a fun layout and is actually a challenge at level, especially if you don't have twinked gear.

    That said, there is not much room for error, plenty of chances to wipe, only two shrines. Also, it seems to draw some of the . . . less desirable players . . . . I would say that nearly all of the names on my very short squelch list got there following a VoN run.

    Hmmm, I guess that brings me to VoN 1st time raid tips!

    1. If you are brand new, says so! New people are great!
    2. If you don't know, ask!
    3. If you don't know, DON'T TOUCH! Don't talk to the NPC's, pull the lever, click the item. Don't touch.
    4. If you have a +4 STR item, Bull's Strength will not boost your STR any more.
    5. If you have a +4 WIS item, Owl's Wisdsom will not boost your WIS any more.
    6. Listen.
    7. If someone puts up a DDoor, take it.
    8. Do not put up your own DDoors.
    9. Do not help with the puzzle.
    10. If someone asks, "Who has the XXX" actually open your inventory and look to see if you have the XXX, then, close your inventory and stop breaking rule #3.
    11. The boss in the first part of the raid is immune to elemental attacks. Stop fireballing and acid bursting it.
    12. Don't chain lightening it either.
    13. Your mana and health will reset before you go to fight the dragon. Don't save mana in first part's boss fight.
    14. I know he said it's a baseball diamond and you're supposed to go to 2nd base. But don't run run over the pitcher's mound to get there.
    15. Don't range the dragon. She will wing buffet everyone to death. It will be your fault. I saw you using that bow after the leader told you not to range the dragon. I don't care that you didn't bring any melee weapons. Just stand there and cast cure light wounds on me.
    16. Re-read rule #6 again. This implies not babbling over your mic about how great you lighting bolt wand is. Less talking because we're all trying to listen to the leader. We can't hear him because you just spent two minutes explaining that your superior glaciation gear makes your sleet storm spells uber L33T.
    17. Do not break rule #3. Pretty pretty please.
    ^^ What he said.

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    Thanks for the rule list

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    There were a couple of LFMs for VoN over the weekend, but the timing didn't work out for me.

    What would be a good bit of text to put in the LFM if I wanted to start my own group? I would obviously need an experienced player to pass lead to...

    Thoughts?

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