Castrers have to know

[ilgriffo]

Yesterday I experience again what is getting me crazy. Casters who do not know what spells are for.

I would like to introduce you to the spell:
RESIST ENERGY
It is a 2nd lv spells avaible to all caster and it gives an ally limited protection from an elemental damage type. At lv 11 it grants 30 resistance to a single elemental.

It is just a second lv spell but it can be far better then:
Protection from Energy 3th lv spell
or
Protection from Elements 5th lv spell

those two spells grants Protection till the maximus of 120 points of elementals damage are not exceeded, then it ends.
the first one, Resist Energy, eleminate the first 30 points of elemental damage for every single incoming elelmental damage and it last till the end of the spell duration (or till dispelled)

So SP wise, in a quest full of elemnetal everage damage (so no spike of ellemetal damage), the second lv one is way better.

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Now that you all know about it plz stop casting mass elementals protection when it is not necessary, it is a waste of SP for no gain (not necesary only your SP but also the healer one or wands/pots). ty

[Impaqt]

Yesterday I experience again what is getting me crazy. Casters who do not know what spells are for.

I would like to introduce you to the spell:
RESIST ENERGY
It is a 2nd lv spells avaible to all caster and it gives an ally limited protection from an elemental damage type. At lv 11 it grants 30 resistance to a single elemental.

It is just a second lv spell but it can be far better then:
Protection from Energy 3th lv spell
or
Protection from Elements 5th lv spell

those two spells grants Protection till the maximus of 120 points of elementals damage are not exceeded, then it ends.
the first one, Resist Energy, eleminate the first 30 points of elemental damage for every single incoming elelmental damage and it last till the end of the spell duration (or till dispelled)

So SP wise, in a quest full of elemnetal everage damage (so no spike of ellemetal damage), the second lv one is way better.

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Now that you all know about it plz stop casting mass elementals protection when it is not necessary, it is a waste of SP for no gain (not necesary only your SP but also the healer one or wands/pots). ty

Sorry, but Protection (Especially Mass) is a VERY good spell and extremly mana efficient. Even if youneed only one or 2, it is well worth the spell point investment. Protetion stops a LOT of burst damage. Not saying resist is unnecessary by any means. they should be used together. But dont dis protection.

[PCNONSENSE]

You know what the best part about being a caster is?

You can cast whatever the H** you want!!

They sell resist pots for you non casters who think you know everything!! Enjoy!

[Spoonwelder]

Has anyone tested whether the casting order affects the protection/resist combo.....ie. if cast protection first then resist, the 40hp incoming damage goes though the resist first to chop 30 damage off then to the protection to erode 10 from the protection. Or will it always happen that way regardless of casting order?

[taurean430]

Yesterday I experience again what is getting me crazy. Casters who do not know what spells are for.

I would like to introduce you to the spell:
RESIST ENERGY
It is a 2nd lv spells avaible to all caster and it gives an ally limited protection from an elemental damage type. At lv 11 it grants 30 resistance to a single elemental.

It is just a second lv spell but it can be far better then:
Protection from Energy 3th lv spell
or
Protection from Elements 5th lv spell

those two spells grants Protection till the maximus of 120 points of elementals damage are not exceeded, then it ends.
the first one, Resist Energy, eleminate the first 30 points of elemental damage for every single incoming elelmental damage and it last till the end of the spell duration (or till dispelled)

So SP wise, in a quest full of elemnetal everage damage (so no spike of ellemetal damage), the second lv one is way better.

:::::::::::::::::

Now that you all know about it plz stop casting mass elementals protection when it is not necessary, it is a waste of SP for no gain (not necesary only your SP but also the healer one or wands/pots). ty

A minimal investment in self sufficiency would eliminate your apparent distress. Try purchasing items with resist on them in swappable spots. Like a cloak, for example. My current fighter incarnation uses these things, and occasional pots and it works well.

It's really up to the person with the blue bar to decide what buffs they feel are appropriate for the quest. If you feel you need something specific, make sure you have it for yourself. That way you won't be disappointed

[Lord_WC]

You know what the best part about being a caster is?

You can cast whatever the H** you want!!

They sell resist pots for you non casters who think you know everything!! Enjoy!

Did you know they sell melee hirelings? Just FYI so know why you have to run raid with them.

Ohwait, you can't. Tough luck, guess who won't be running...


@Spoonwelder: They don't make a difference. Protection is always the first to negate the damage, and full of it, so you can't make resist factor in. Sadly.

[Jakarr]

Never rely on someone else to give you the buffs you need to not die.

[phalaeo]

But dont dis protection.

Don't you dare dis Protection, yo!

[Hardehar]

I would like to introduce you to the spell:
RESIST ENERGY
It is a 2nd lv spells avaible to all caster and it gives an ally limited protection from an elemental damage type. At lv 11 it grants 30 resistance to a single elemental.

um... no. Bards certainly don't have the resist energy spell.
Potions however ARE available to ALL classes, as well as gtr resist cloaks (of which most of my non-casting toons have a full set).

[Lord_WC]

Never rely on someone else to give you the buffs you need to not die.

No problem there. But as a bard I never run off from the party to haste/rage (as there are pots for that) or give gh even in a byoh zerg run (theres a clickie for it as well), the least I can expect that I don't have to use consumables. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, if I ask for it, and the caster says he won't give it's ok. I'll blacklist him tho, because if he's unable to spare 25sp, he usually sucks anyway.

[taurean430]

No problem there. But as a bard I never run off from the party to haste/rage (as there are pots for that) or give gh even in a byoh zerg run (theres a clickie for it as well), the least I can expect that I don't have to use consumables. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, if I ask for it, and the caster says he won't give it's ok. I'll blacklist him tho, because if he's unable to spare 25sp, he usually sucks anyway.

Doesn't your bard have wands?

I get where you are coming from with this, but I think you are taking it too far.

[Fomori]

No problem there. But as a bard I never run off from the party to haste/rage (as there are pots for that) or give gh even in a byoh zerg run (theres a clickie for it as well), the least I can expect that I don't have to use consumables. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, if I ask for it, and the caster says he won't give it's ok. I'll blacklist him tho, because if he's unable to spare 25sp, he usually sucks anyway.

So as a bard you wont give out haste/rage/gh but you'll blacklist a caster if he doesnt give you what you want? Unless you meant you stay with the party and will cast haste/rage/blur but not go chasing after someone to do so... because that makes a little more sense and sounds less hypocritical.

[painindaguild]

Never rely on someone else to give you the buffs you need to not die.

if evryone followed this why would there be casters? if evryone would just carry there own gh/haste and stun item an tempest doin some manyshot simply does more.

Sorry, but Protection (Especially Mass) is a VERY good spell and extremly mana efficient. Even if youneed only one or 2, it is well worth the spell point investment. Protetion stops a LOT of burst damage. Not saying resist is unnecessary by any means. they should be used together. But dont dis protection.

first of all hes not talking about the mass spell. all mass spells are better then the single spells cus its faster. thats the main reason u cast mass protect elements and not resists.
its FASTER and easyer.
resist is by far better the only problem is that its single target and the differnt resists share the same timer, wich makes it time costly and annoying.

good advice ilgriffo. now try them to convince to haste alil more

[d4rkstars]

Has anyone tested whether the casting order affects the protection/resist combo.....ie. if cast protection first then resist, the 40hp incoming damage goes though the resist first to chop 30 damage off then to the protection to erode 10 from the protection. Or will it always happen that way regardless of casting order?

the 2 spells dont stack, it would be far too convenient

you can sum up by saying, when protection is up, resistance doesnt work - thats mainly why the OP is wrong, those 2 spells should not be compared as they give very different protection

- resistance is good for easy quest, when many low fire damage is taken all the time
- protection is good when you need to avoid big burst of damage (but yrea you need to recast it)

good example of that is harry in shroud, caster should recast protection after each meteor he casts, , this meteor hits for like 150 fire damage, with prot, you take 30, with FR you take 120


as conclusion, thos 2 spells should not be put vs each other, they have different purpose and places where they are more usefull than the other

[Sinni]

if you want arcanes to save SP and money tell them to stop casting stoneskin on pure lvl 20 fvs

oh, and rangers can stop their barkskin too, it looks ugly and 95% of all people don't benefit from it at all. and if someone wants it he'll ask

[Sinni]

the 2 spells dont stack, it would be far too convenient

you can sum up by saying, when protection is up, resistance doesnt work - thats mainly why the OP is wrong, those 2 spells should not be compared as they give very different protection

- resistance is good for easy quest, when many low fire damage is taken all the time
- protection is good when you need to avoid big burst of damage (but yrea you need to recast it)

good example of that is harry in shroud, caster should recast protection after each meteor he casts, , this meteor hits for like 150 fire damage, with prot, you take 30, with FR you take 120


as conclusion, thos 2 spells should not be put vs each other, they have different purpose and places where they are more usefull than the other

i think this is what he meant with

So SP wise, in a quest full of elemnetal everage damage (so no spike of ellemetal damage), the second lv one is way better.

[Llewndyn]

Yesterday I experience again what is getting me crazy. Casters who do not know what spells are for.

I would like to introduce you to the spell:
RESIST ENERGY
It is a 2nd lv spells avaible to all caster and it gives an ally limited protection from an elemental damage type. At lv 11 it grants 30 resistance to a single elemental.

It is just a second lv spell but it can be far better then:
Protection from Energy 3th lv spell
or
Protection from Elements 5th lv spell

those two spells grants Protection till the maximus of 120 points of elementals damage are not exceeded, then it ends.
the first one, Resist Energy, eleminate the first 30 points of elemental damage for every single incoming elelmental damage and it last till the end of the spell duration (or till dispelled)

So SP wise, in a quest full of elemnetal everage damage (so no spike of ellemetal damage), the second lv one is way better.

:::::::::::::::::

Now that you all know about it plz stop casting mass elementals protection when it is not necessary, it is a waste of SP for no gain (not necesary only your SP but also the healer one or wands/pots). ty

To the marketplace VENDORS. There is one vendor that sells these magical things called Resist Potions, and you can buy them cheap! I don't have resist energy on my FVS, I have Protection, and I have no intention of going and GETTING it as I have other choices which members appreciate just as much if not more.

The fact of the matter is, if I had resist energy, people would whine because I didn't have Restoration, if I have restoration, people would whine because I don't have this spell, if I have this spell then why don't I have that spell... it's MY character, not yours. If you need a certain spell so bad, put it in your LFG "Need caster with bb, raise dead, resist energy" is not rude, and you will ONLY get casters with the spells you want them to have by doing that. Yes, there are spells you want a caster to have: Firewall if a sorc or wizzy, haste too, blur or displacement if a bard (or wiz or sorc), raise and SOME kind of healing spell if a divine, but come on this is ridiculous. If you don't wanna do all that, get a hireling caster with the spell you want or buy a wand.

[Farayon]

If you _need_ a buff, bring it yourself.

If you _want_ a buff, ask nicely.


hint: 20pt resist pots are readily available

[Lord_WC]

So as a bard you wont give out haste/rage/gh but you'll blacklist a caster if he doesnt give you what you want? Unless you meant you stay with the party and will cast haste/rage/blur but not go chasing after someone to do so... because that makes a little more sense and sounds less hypocritical.

No, I meant I don't run off from the party to haste/rage myself why leaving them out of it. And that I give them gh, no matter what. It doesn't cost me anything and helps them complete faster, better xp/min, less deaths/breaks, again, better xp/min.

[Llewndyn]

Did you know they sell melee hirelings? Just FYI so know why you have to run raid with them.

Ohwait, you can't. Tough luck, guess who won't be running...


@Spoonwelder: They don't make a difference. Protection is always the first to negate the damage, and full of it, so you can't make resist factor in. Sadly.

Just by reading your retort I get the feeling a melee hireling would be a better bet than your melee character