Quote Originally Posted by bendover View Post
Wow this thread has really gotten out of hand. Everyone here knows that the tile room is (for the most part) not being completed the way it was intended. Everyone here knows that most of you guys are doing it the "exploit" way. There is no point in arguing with this the raid was NOT designed to be completed in this fashion. And like I said I've been working hard with my guildies and even pugs that join my LFM to learn goggles the legit way. Freezing your client is weak and personally I think it's fun doing it legit.
lol blame me, it was my post that turned it awry. ive done abbot more times than i can count and have done it many times legit, but eventually i got tired of failing and half the time i want to run abbot i lead the raid myself and end up doing goggles since i dont trust others to not fail, but it seems 90% of all my abbot failures are in roids and the other 10% are in ice... neither of which are being exploited!!!!!!!! ill start caring about the methods when people can pug and not fail at roids, until then if im leading the raid ima cheese my arse thru goggles and i wont complain if i join a raid and that is the method they are using. on a side note i wont get mad at all if i join a raid and the leader is doing goggles legit, ive done it this way many times and have no problem doing it this way in the future... also goggles is much faster than ice/roids so imo all the pikers should go to goggles instead of roids and try to learn the puzzle/get across if the original people fail etc...

on a side note, after bout 50 runs or so with kehg leading and doing goggles legit and failing....... well let's just say im tired of failing a puzzle. other day me and kegh where in a raid and the raid leader stuck me and kehg in goggles and went to ice legit with someone, they failed ice and i simply bailed, im sorry but i was just not in the mood to repeat a simple puzzle like that and i simply did not rejoin the raid. i know ive gotten impatient as i get older, but when ppl fail what i consider to be easy i simply rather leave/quit than go thru the hassle of caring. my general stance on things is apathy, i dont care enough to get angry...