level 20 ranger asking a 18/1/1 ranger for fom?

[Glenalth]

Components?

[konexion]

probably wanted to save his sp for healing himself and leeching off others. i ran into a ranger that did that with resists. we completed the quest and ended up right back in another together where he promptly resisted himself and half the group. i asked him about it and he played like he had never done it in the previous quest. on top of that, he ran around the whole time bragging about how awesome he was with his tumbleweed. eventually, he ****ed off the healer and was left to fend for himself the rest of the way. he tr'ed now but i wouldn't join any group i saw him in after that no matter how bad i wanted to run that particular quest/raid

[Glenalth]

probably wanted to save his sp for healing himself and leeching off others. i ran into a ranger that did that with resists. we completed the quest and ended up right back in another together where he promptly resisted himself and half the group. i asked him about it and he played like he had never done it in the previous quest. on top of that, he ran around the whole time bragging about how awesome he was with his tumbleweed. eventually, he ****ed off the healer and was left to fend for himself the rest of the way. he tr'ed now but i wouldn't join any group i saw him in after that no matter how bad i wanted to run that particular quest/raid

Did he also brag about a Ring of Thelis?

[Hadrian]

Dude im from khyber we live on drama...... or is it live for drama?

Sarlona here. I like to run with pugs just for the stories to tell later. I have quite a few of them stored up....

Lucky for me I have a good guild to fall back on when I don't feel like dealing with it all.

[ahpook]

Is it possilbe that the ranger never learned how to switch spells at the shrine?

The begining quest does not really go over that, and if no one has explained it to them, how are they gonna know.

He was a level 20. Curiosity (or random clicking) should have had him figure out how to swap spells

[AylinIsAwesome]

Neutralize poison pot lasts 7 minutes and is available at the vendor in Meridia.

Nobody should be asking for that as a buff while in the shroud - LET ALONE the guy who could not only pot it, but could cast it - or alternatively wand it!

I'll never forget the Rogue with a Wizard level I met in Shroud once who yelled at me for not giving him Resist Poison when I solo-healed the raid for his guild on my FvS.

When I told him he should just drink pots, he said they were too expensive. So I sent him some.

Here's the response I got...

[StupendoThug]

Yeah Aylin. He sure told you where to put it. Also, a real healer spams Break Enchantment into the group ALONG WITH their mass heals/cures at all times because the meele should never have to remove their own curses.

[NaturalHazard]

he could of been joking when he said that, maybe he was out of componants or something?

[NaturalHazard]

I'll never forget the Rogue with a Wizard level I met in Shroud once who yelled at me for not giving him Resist Poison when I solo-healed the raid for his guild on my FvS.

When I told him he should just drink pots, he said they were too expensive. So I sent him some.

Here's the response I got...

Didnt he realise that your a fs so have a limmited spell selection? i never take anything for granted when it comes to fs and sorc buffing spells. I dont have any idea about how many spells you get at that level and what you get to choose from so have no idea. Pots =win cause you cant always count on someone having what you need or death or debuffs during quests.

[PNellesen]

One of the main reasons I like playing Rangers is because they CAN self-buff/self-resist, and have SP left over to hit others in the party as well. I always tell the Clerics that I can take care of the initial resists and FoM (if needed) for the party, and I always ask if anyone wants Barkskin - most times EVERYONE says "yes". I find it hard to believe that a Ranger of that level wouldn't have either some form of Proof against Poison item to switch to (I've got at least 2 in my backpack, and a couple sitting in my shared bank, and I don't have a character above 15 yet) or else have the spell memorized - there are so many places where you need it that I can't imagine NOT having it. I'll go with what a few others have said - give the guy the benefit of the doubt and maybe he was out of SP or components or something like that.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Didnt he realise that your a fs so have a limmited spell selection? i never take anything for granted when it comes to fs and sorc buffing spells. I dont have any idea about how many spells you get at that level and what you get to choose from so have no idea. Pots =win cause you cant always count on someone having what you need or death or debuffs during quests.

Nope.

When I told him I was a FvS and didn't have the spell slot for it, and if he had ever actually played a FvS he would know that, he started saying I wasn't a "real healer", since I didn't do my job (which was apparently to buff his noob ass).

[Guilllotine]

It doesn't really matter. Some people are just out to have fun, and he's apparently one of them. I mean, I don't often expect an AA to be a contributing party member in the first place.

As long as he didn't cause a problem, it's probably best to just let him play how he wants. You'll enjoy PUGs a lot more if you just accept that you're going to see a lot of random builds and build ideas. Even if you *know* it's a bad idea, the quest isn't that hard in the first place and it's not worth the drama.

Maybe he was using his spell points to heal his pets. Sounds like the perfect use!

I agree with your thinking here, its a game, its a PUG, we are all here to have fun, cast it on him, "kindly inform" him of the issue you're having and be on your way to completion. done and done

[Morlen]

Hey Morlen, there are these potions they sell at special vendors just for the purpose of not having to stand by the shrine for 20 minutes buffing your nooberific butt. Peech may have mana to spare but she's much rather spend her time killing stuff and busting guildies balls!

As long as you have the time to spare for a little wood then everything is AOK in my book.



On another note...

While I agree it is a good idea to carry your own poison pots, I completely disagree and hate it when people get angry about someone asking for a remove poison. Why do you have to drink a pot when you're in a party and there is someone who carries the spell and has the SP to buff?

Got my first neg rep! wooooo!

[NaturalHazard]

As long as you have the time to spare for a little wood then everything is AOK in my book.



On another note...



Got my first neg rep! wooooo!

wow 188 posts and thats your first neg rep? your doing well!!! +1 to you, i dont totally agree with what you said but I dont think it was neg rep worthy.

[Sweyn]

As long as you have the time to spare for a little wood then everything is AOK in my book.



On another note...



Got my first neg rep! wooooo!

I did not give you neg rep for your 1st post, i don't think it deserved it, as it wasn't inflammatory etc... however i did give you neg rep for this post. If you have a problem about neg rep, bring it up with T&T, don't complain, nag, or bring it up here.

[Morlen]

I did not give you neg rep for your 1st post, i don't think it deserved it, as it wasn't inflammatory etc... however i did give you neg rep for this post. If you have a problem about neg rep, bring it up with T&T, don't complain, nag, or bring it up here.

lol.

[Morlen]

I guess to emphasize my point, yes I DO think you should use remove poison pots/wands. However, I don't think people should be flamed for asking for a simple buff.

[Bobthesponge]

A couple of things here...

1) Poison pots should be carried by all fleshies full stop. If you are in a shroud you have plenty of money to buy them.

2) All rangers should carry FoM because it is the best buff they can cast full stop. ****skin, resist, poison, et al all come in pots.

3) All rangers should carry Poison because, really, what else is there to take? I am tired of hearing "this is my playstyle" when all you are doing is intentionally gimping yourself. That being said, poison is relatively unimportant - see point (1)

4) On a lighter note, I actually had this conversation a few months back when Shrouding on my ranger:

Noobsauce01: Are you going to give me poison?
Me: No.
Noobsauce01: Dude, you're a ranger.
Me: Dude, you're a warforged.

To be fair this was somone who just forgot that they were on their WF, but it still cracked me up.

[Hadrian]

3) All rangers should carry Poison because, really, what else is there to take?

I've never had neutralize poison memorized, and I've had my ranger for a couple of years now. I can count the number of times I've needed it on zero hands.

[Thrudh]

I've never had neutralize poison memorized, and I've had my ranger for a couple of years now. I can count the number of times I've needed it on zero hands.

What level is your ranger? What do you have instead? Do you have a wand so you can at least cure others? Or in a couple of years, have you never been a party with someone who needed a cure posion?