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    Can I get opinions on this? Perhaps how to make it better? Tomes are only possible if I loot them...

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    RogueOne 
    Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Male
    (20 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 212
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 21
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             12                    12
    Dexterity            16                    26
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             12                    12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               7                    31
    Bluff                 1                    11
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             5                    24
    Disable Device        6                    25
    Haggle                1                     1
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  6                    42
    Intimidate            1                     1
    Jump                  5                    26
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         7                    41
    Open Lock             7                    31
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                6                    25
    Spot                  3                    22
    Swim                  1                     1
    Tumble                4                     9
    Use Magic Device      5                    27
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+3)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Hide (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Move Silently (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Cheat Death
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
    Last edited by Culver.Civello; 11-03-2010 at 05:56 PM.

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    Bump? Can I get some kind of feedback? Good or Bad.

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    Most people will tell you to go STR-based on a pure rogue; the argument being the boost to to-hit and AC from going DEX-/Finesse-based isn't worth the lost feat & lower DPS. It's OK from a flavor perspective, IMHO, just not ideal for max DPS.

    However, every melee build should have Power Attack at some point, IMHO, esp. a Finesse-based one, which requires base STR 13. So either boost your base STR a pt or two - I'd probably dump-stat CHA - or plan to take a STR tome eventually. I would drop SF UMD; take Improved Crit at lvl 12 and PA at lvl 18 (or vice versa).

    Also, you took IC Slash, but unless you plan to take khopesh prof. (and go STR-based), most pure rogues take IC Pierce and use rapiers. What weapon(s) were you planning on using?

    Skills look fine, though if you don't have a haggle-bot yet you might want to consider maxing Haggle.

    EDIT: I'd also take your feats in a slightly different order: TWF, Finesse, Toughness, ITWF, Imp Crit, GTWF, PA.
    Last edited by unbongwah; 11-04-2010 at 09:58 AM.

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    Hmm. Toughness is something I always take first thing, because specially in this case where I can't really get my hands on a Con item just yet, and then Weapon Finesse because I'd rather to attack slowly at first than pummeling the mobs with two weapons yet not able to really hit them. By Level 6, I'll have them all anyways. I mean.. I'd rather have TWF before then.. but I just don't think it works good. I'm going to try and get my hands on a Tome... and have been thinking about taking Power Attack.

    I realized later that I put IC:Slicing in there. That was suppose to be piercing.

    Haggle was something I wanted to go for, just not sure how I would do it unless I threw a couple points into Int.

    Thanks for the Input.

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