stacking blurs?

[zarious]

Do dusk and blur stack?

If so is it only the dusk on the robe, or does the one on the dusk heart stack as well?

What about shadow form from the ninja spy enhancements?

Would it be possible to get a 60% miss chance from dusk (the 20% one on the epic cloak or shadows) + blur + Ninja spy?

Just wondering cause I saw it noted in another build post that the OP thought dusk, blur and shadow form stacked.

Anyone know?

[dkyle]

Dusk, Blur, Ghostly and Displacement do not stack. They are all concealment bonuses. Wraith form and Shadow Fade are both incorporeality, and stack multiplicatively with concealment; i.e., each incoming attack has to pass each thing to hit.

So, with Blur + Shadow fade, the miss chance is 1 - (1 - 20%) * (1 - 25%) = 40%

[DocBenway]

Just recently in a shroud run, one character was asking for Blur repeatedly after it had already been cast. I had to tell them to take off their Cloak of Night to see that Blur was cast on them, just the cloak overwrites it.

[shadowsaun]

so does this mean, because I have the cloak of night I can stop casting Blur on myself? Im wasting the cast cause I already have the blur equivalent on he robe?

Blur is 20 % yes?
Robe is 10% yes (or is it 20% and holding a type-o when upgraded as some say)

Any harm/wast in casting blur on a cloaked wizzie like myself?

[shadowsaun]

ok so I noticed last night that if you cast blur it is on you but you have to take the cloak off to see it (said above). My only question now is simple

with blur and cloak on, will the chance to miss sometimes use the cloak and sometimes use Blur? Or does double doing it not matter at all? I'm guessing the later.

If so I will save the blur for someone else. One less buff for me

[MrLarone]

with blur and cloak on, will the chance to miss sometimes use the cloak and sometimes use Blur? Or does double doing it not matter at all? I'm guessing the later.

no real clue but normally in these situations the highest buff is used.

[ConnorMacLoad]

I am pretty sure I have read in a few places that the cloak is actually 20% (at level 16 I think?) but have not seen any dev confirmation. It may exist though.

[fuzzy1guy]

It does not stack.


Casting blur now is a complete waste of sp. Take it off your hotbar. Put in a diffrent spell for the slot.

Nobody needs it anymore. And you can't TELL whos wearing the cloak (most everyone high enough to wear the item) so you'll be wasting alot of sp for no reason at all most of the time.

We all just gained a spell slot! Use it. If they demand blur... Tell them to go get a cloak or duskheart or something.
Blur is obsolete for the next few months. Unless the event comes back again. Then you can extend that out to forever as needed. :P


We need 3 minute blur pots now. To cover all those people who just HAVE to have it.

[shadowsaun]

yep that's just what I was thinking! Ive just relied on blur for SO LONG!

Guess that's one more aura I can cast now. Meah, save blur for the summons

[Matuse]

It's odd, because with a Smoke greensteel item providing permanent Blur, I can still have the actual spell cast on me, and have it show up with the swirly things around my character and the buff box in the corner.

[shadowsaun]

I can only guess that Blur would be more powerful than your GS and thats why?

The cloak MUST be 20% I do NOT have the buff symbol unless I remove the cloak

[Cauthey]

I can only guess that Blur would be more powerful than your GS and thats why?

The cloak MUST be 20% I do NOT have the buff symbol unless I remove the cloak

Wish a dev would confirm or clarify this. It'd be good to be able to squeeze another fireball our of our sorceror now that I have the Mabar cloak.

[Dulcimerist]

Wish a dev would confirm or clarify this. It'd be good to be able to squeeze another fireball our of our sorceror now that I have the Mabar cloak.

I'm tempted to wear the cloak in a low level quest around a mob, and keep a running tally of how many times the concealment notice pops up in order to figure out a percentage.

[shadowsaun]

I just want to know if they alternate in the calculation. I know they don't stack, but is it one or the other

OR will it alternate between blur and the cloak??? Please tell us!

[sweez]

The (level 16, at least) cloak RIGHT NOW gives 20% concealment.

[sweez]

I just want to know if they alternate in the calculation. I know they don't stack, but is it one or the other

OR will it alternate between blur and the cloak??? Please tell us!

The cloak ATM gives 20% concealment, and since its duration is permanent, it overrides blur.

If you had a 10% concealment item and got blur cast on yourself, for the duration of the blur spell you'd have 20% concealment, after the blur spell's expired, it'd revert back to the permanent 10% your item is giving you.

[shadowsaun]

yes and this is how we know the description is wrong. Cause Blur does in fact go out of the buff bar..

[fuzzy1guy]

It's odd, because with a Smoke greensteel item providing permanent Blur, I can still have the actual spell cast on me, and have it show up with the swirly things around my character and the buff box in the corner.

FYI... YOU are the only one who sees the blur graphic when cast on you while wearing a smoke item.

Nobody else does. The caster sure doesnt. He thinks it failed because he was buffing too fast and trys again.

And now he's swearing at you for wasting sp.

:P

[Glenalth]

Just go into a PvP pit with someone with the cloak and attack them, you can see the concealment rolls and determine the actual percentage rather quickly.

Just remember to put on your fear immunity item and take off your true seeing.

[CaptainCameo]

Dusk, Blur, Ghostly and Displacement do not stack. They are all concealment bonuses. Wraith form and Shadow Fade are both incorporeality, and stack multiplicatively with concealment; i.e., each incoming attack has to pass each thing to hit.

So, with Blur + Shadow fade, the miss chance is 1 - (1 - 20%) * (1 - 25%) = 40%

Blur and displacement do stack oddly enough. I didn't think so either but it does.