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I haven't run it that much, but I have yet to see a seal drop in there that's not an OOB quest item (spectral gloves, vulkoorim leather/dagger, or ward of undeath). Even if it's somehow possible for Sands items seals to drop in there, that drop rate would be so low that you shouldn't count on it.
Now that Axer's back, he may have a few things to add to this.
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Question regarding Red Fens scrolls.
Do all scrolls drop randomly in any quest or is there a particular tendency for certain quests to drop them?
I've run the red fens more times than I can recall and have never once seen the Gloves of the Claw scroll drop but I've been soloing the beginning giants and scorps in claw repeatedly for...ev....er and have gotten siren's charm, souleater, elder's cap and a couple other junk scrolls so I'm thinking it's probably 100% random for scrolls.
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I think for sure that desert rares, aka outdoor item seals can not drop in any quest except DQ1. Can anyone confirm they've actually seen one outside dq1?
I have't ran much desert quests at all since i got back ,but from memory of years ago when i ran em a hundred times each I think thats accurate. Did a few recent wizking is all, each run had a dustless boot seal outa the air djinnin chest, and some other raid ones out the rightside endchest, no outdoor ones.
Also don't think wizking/chains/oobe spcific seals drop in the wrong quests ever like you said is possible. Tho the shards for those do drop in both there specific quests and DQ2, which I think is dumb.
Raid seals certainly drop outside it (dq1). I see them very commonly in wiz king in 2 chests:
Air Djinni chest and Rightside chest at the end, (not epic chest).
Seen many raids seals in locked pickable chest in Chains.
Very few raid seals in oob, but the ones I did see where in the final side chest, non locked door one. None of the epic chests drop seals at all.
Newer stuff:
Red Fens:
Ran it lots and your list seems accurate.
Carnival:
Not ran it enoug to offer much input
Chronoscope - i know most of these running it a lot lately, but havent wrote it down, so only offer random stuff from memory.. prolly should have screenshoted more...
for the most part the seals match the chests the items come out of themself. tho obviously some exceptions since some items are end reward only.
From your list:
Seals (incomplete list):
(Bloodplate chest)
Diabolist's Robe: Bloodplate's Chest - correct
Timeblade: Bloodplate's Chest - correct
Staff of Nat Gann: Bloodplate's Chest - correct
Diabolist Docent seal is also from bloodplates chest.
Charged Gauntlet Seal is bloodplate iirc.
Think Greataxe seal is from his chest (rightside one, nothing comes out of the left one cept the axe itself and some ****)
Razorarm chest (rightside one):
Envenomed Cloak: Razor Arm's Chest - correct
Crossbow - Razor arm
Boots - Razor arm?
Helm - Razor arm?
(not sure on the last 2, prolly a good guess tho)
googles - mmm not sure i seen that one much yet.
All Seals are from rightside bloodplate chest, and Razorarm rightside chest, think 50/50 split, with razorarm having the better ones despite being the gimpier boss heh.
Shards from epic chest only.
No seals from any other chests (Also checked all optional chests you get for killing an insane amount of extra mobs, no seals, just drop the gem of many facets very commonly)
Some of the more harcore players that have there full abishai sets taht been running this the last few months probably can give you more accurate info on chrono then i can tho. Only up to about 15 runs and didnt take accurate notes of what dropped.
Last edited by Shade; 03-07-2011 at 04:35 AM.
All scrolls in every epic pack have no idea what quest your running... Only know that they are pack of an epic pack, and can drop scrolls, any scrolls from said pack.
Scrolls drops are very simple:
Kill a mob, roll a d100 . Get a 1-99, nothing happens. Get a 100 - get a scroll. Scroll is selected randomly from a table, now the table might include the worse scrolls a few more times then the better scrols, but every scroll for the given pack is on that table.
After scroll is selected roll a 1dX, where X = number of players in dungeon.. Said player rolled get the scroll, and it's annouced in party chat.
I've seen glove scroll drop personally into a clerics hands in into the deeps. I believe it was from a scrag I killed.
Friend of mine farms fathom the depths got the glove scroll there too.
Another friend of mine farmed claw a bit and go the glove scroll there..
Any quest, any scrolls (from same pack)
Only exception is bugged quests which turbine forget to turn scroll drops on.. Those are:
DQ2 (demon sands pack)
and
Epic DA (Devils assault pack)
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Did eWizKing twice this weekend and saw several explorer area seals drop. Coronation Shield, Mummy Wrappings, Shard of Vollun, and Vulkoorim Pendant. This is in addition to a fair number of Wiz King specific seals and raid seals. From an earlier run, I pulled and passed a Thornlord seal as well.
Had the most luck in the Djinni/Efreeti chests, and had very little in the two non-epic chests in the treasure room. Probably just luck related.
Yea.. Sounds like incredible luck.
In my ~100 wizking runs... Only about 5% of seals or less are non-wiz king specific ones.
Good to know the sands ones drop there too tho.
Agree on the Djniini chests being the most likely to drop them. Think a certain named air djiini (i know there are 2 differnet ones) chest seems by far the most likely to drop them. Fire efreeti rarely does, alnost never raiyums chest, never the leftside treasure room chest, and only rare the rightside treasure room chest. But just could be all luck.
Yeah. Desert Epic item Seals can drop in any Desert Epic Chest. So Wizzy is a favourite because it has more chests.
Just one addenda. I don't know why but the Mari Chain Seal keeps dropping out of the Octo Chest In EDQ1.
The Shards drop from their respective Quest end chest and EDQ1/2. Shards have an increased drop rate in their ''home'' chest
The ''home'' chest for raid loot is EDQ2. The ''home'' chest for the Explorer items is allegedly EDQ1 but the drop rate is fubarred so don't be holding your breath
Did three more runs:
A number of WizKing seals, didn't count exactly how many or which ones.
3 raid seals (Torc, Green Blade, Dustless Boots)
5 explorer area seals (Robe of Fire, Bloodstone, Vulkoorim Pendant, Shield of the Scorpion, Tinder)
3 total scrolls, all from the same run, none were raid scrolls.
The Robe of Fire seal was pulled from the first room's Scorpion Crest chest.
chrono scope
seals
bloodplate :
timeblade
gem of many facets
diabolist
razorarm
charged gauntlets
boot of corrosion
scorched bracers
helm of frost.
envenomed cloak
I got a Pouch of Jerky seal in OOB a couple days ago. It was in one of the side chests, not the first available one with the rednamed priest. It was also not in the last side door before the underwater shrine. I know it wasn't that one because we had to go back for that chest after the quest was complete due to low SP and the need to make the shrine. I'm pretty sure it was in the chest that Darkstinger guards, off the room with the second avatar.Very few raid seals in oob, but the ones I did see where in the final side chest, non locked door one. None of the epic chests drop seals at all.
As for VoN seals, I have run VoN4...a LOT. The others less often. Some of these seals will have come from 1&2, but not many (my luck there is awful). My current count is:
Delving Boots: 1
Dragon's Eye: 1
Silver Concord Cloak: 1
Delving Suit: 4
Hammer Of Life: 1 (90% sure I got this one from the epic chest in VoN2)
Docent Of Grace: 1
Warding Bracers: 2
Azure Prophecy: 5
Delving Goggles: 2
SoS: 1 (definitely from the epic chest in 4)
Ruby Gauntlets: 1
Ironweave Robe: 1
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Any ideas about the droprates of seals of: Belt of the Mroranon and Ring of the Silver Concord? I've been farming for these two particular seals for 6 months, using 2 toons ransacking the easily accessible chests in EV1 (1 toon can unlock the guard tower chest), EV2, EV3, EV4, and timering out 3 toons in EV6, as well as completing EV1 and EV2 about once every 2 days. I've seen the ring seal once, in the EV2 end chest (lost the roll), and the belt seal about 6 times, 4 times in EV1 (end chest) and twice in EV6, none of which was ever for roll (sidenote: this must be the most desirable seal in the game or something because I've never heard of anyone putting this up for roll). They're both last pieces for me and it kind of bothers me to put half a year of work into something and not get anything. Am I farming the wrong chests? For example: for the ring seal, is it common in the END CHEST or just ANY EV3 chest?
Since I didn't see this mentioned yet: the belt seal is common in EV1.
This is about 2000 chests, ~10-15% of which were end chests. I think I've pulled maybe 20 seals or so in this time, so I guess an average seal drop rate of 1% seems accurate for me.
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