20th 40th and 60th completions

[Srozbun]

I'm sure this has been suggested before, but is there a reason to limit the list of named loot for 20th 40th and 60th completions? I think you get 8-10 choices as end rewards, and depending on the raid (DQ I'm looking at you) and the amount of named loot, this may only cover about 1/3 of all the possible named loot in the quest.

Would it be feasible to maybe expand the number of end rewards by maybe 2-4 every 20th completion so that you have a better chance to get that named item you've been farming? So basically, the 20th completion will stay the same. The 40th completion will have 2-4 more slots giving you a better chance to pull that named item, and the 60th even more slots, etc. up to a certain amount. I know my FvS is racing to 60th atm for DQ and still no torc. It's incredibly frustrating especially when I want to focus on other characters as well.

[Darkrok]

I know people complain about loot easy buttons. I do too. But the idea of expanding rewards at 20/40/60 by a bit each time seems imminently fair. If the only item I need is a chattering ring for instance and I've run 80 Titan's then by god it's about time I should get it. 80 (or even 40 or 60) of any raid is no longer what I'd call an 'easy button'.

[Kevorkian]

If the only item I need is a chattering ring for instance and I've run 80 Titan's then by god it's about time I should get it. 80 (or even 40 or 60) of any raid is no longer what I'd call an 'easy button'.

How in God's name did you find 80 Titan raids? I rarely see more than 1 a week on Thelanis.

I'm in total agreement with op tho.

[HEroman]

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There were plenty of people with bad luck who had do a raid/quest over 60 times to get a certain item. This just does not go for ddo, it goes for most mmos too.

[Tobril]

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There were plenty of people with bad luck who had do a raid/quest over 60 times to get a certain item. This just does not go for ddo, it goes for most mmos too.

Just because people get kicked in the junk now doesn't mean that people in the future should as well.

[stoolcannon]

I know people complain about loot easy buttons. I do too. But the idea of expanding rewards at 20/40/60 by a bit each time seems imminently fair. If the only item I need is a chattering ring for instance and I've run 80 Titan's then by god it's about time I should get it. 80 (or even 40 or 60) of any raid is no longer what I'd call an 'easy button'.

If I run a raid 20 times, or in real world terms wait 60 days to get something I personally think that's more than enough to not be considered and easy button.

40-60 times and I'll be playing a new MMO. That's outrageous.

If not for the timer I'd have no problem with the grind. But giving a low drop rate and then for some odd reason making me wait 3 days to try again is incredibly frustrating.

If they just removed the timers I'd be happy. Wouldnt change my need to run something 60 times but at least it wouldnt take me 6 months to get an item I want.

[stoolcannon]

Just because people get kicked in the junk now doesn't mean that people in the future should as well.

No way dude. Equally crappy for everyone! Welcome to ddo, the socialist empire. lol.

[Darkrok]

How in God's name did you find 80 Titan raids? I rarely see more than 1 a week on Thelanis.

I'm in total agreement with op tho.

Oh god, I don't need any of the loot from Titan raid so I've run it exactly 1 time on any toons. I much prefer fighting stuff to doing puzzles and hanging on ladders.

I'm honestly new enough where I haven't really had the opportunity to have that grind yet. I've only hit 40 on a couple toons for a couple raids and the only raid item I really, REALLY want on any toon that I haven't pulled is the Torc - and that's after 9 combined raids on two toons.

So I haven't felt this sting really but I can understand how frustrating it could get. And it's not like having missed out on your 20th makes things any easier on your 40th...it's the same chance yet again. And each 20 is a minimum of two months.

So yeah, if you put in two months of raids you should have a better chance than you have now of pulling what you want. And every two extra months of raids should raise that chance even higher.

[Srozbun]

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There were plenty of people with bad luck who had do a raid/quest over 60 times to get a certain item. This just does not go for ddo, it goes for most mmos too.

I am going to be one of those people. As I stated, my FvS (my main?) already passed 40 DQs without a torc. Here's looking at 60. Just because some people have terrible luck does not mean the devs should encourage it. Obtaining named raid loot can be very frustrating when you have to run a raid that many times to get it. I know MMOs encourage grinding as it keeps players in the game, but why not reward those who have stayed long enough to continue running the raids with better chances?

Oh god, I don't need any of the loot from Titan raid so I've run it exactly 1 time on any toons. I much prefer fighting stuff to doing puzzles and hanging on ladders.

I'm honestly new enough where I haven't really had the opportunity to have that grind yet. I've only hit 40 on a couple toons for a couple raids and the only raid item I really, REALLY want on any toon that I haven't pulled is the Torc - and that's after 9 combined raids on two toons.

So I haven't felt this sting really but I can understand how frustrating it could get. And it's not like having missed out on your 20th makes things any easier on your 40th...it's the same chance yet again. And each 20 is a minimum of two months.

So yeah, if you put in two months of raids you should have a better chance than you have now of pulling what you want. And every two extra months of raids should raise that chance even higher.

Exactly. 40th is no more special than 20th. 100th is no more special than 20th. Hypothetical example: a character is so unlucky he has not pulled the item he wants after his 100th run. Come on, at some point the list should be expanded to show all the named loot.