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    Default Ddo Is Balanced!

    what most pvp haters cite is the lack of balance... But classes in DDO are balanced... They are balanced to work together, not balanced to fight 1v1..

    For this reason, I think some kind of PvP system, such as a free-roam area where guilds/groups could compete for farming grounds, could be implemented for fun and intrigue.

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    ddo pvp is not balanced in groups, just like regular pvp, 12 warforged casters would destroy a balanced party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    ddo pvp is not balanced in groups, just like regular pvp, 12 warforged casters would destroy a balanced party.
    I disagree! I think a well-balanced party would destroy a party of any class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    I disagree! I think a well-balanced party would destroy a party of any class.
    Build me a well balanced party, just so we're on the same level, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaldan View Post
    a well balanced party.
    one caster, one ranged DPS (arcane archer or rogue mechanin), two melee DPS, one divine caster, and one wild card....

    would have the grit and the versatility to beat a group of casters, for sure. Now of course there is no rule that says a balanced party will do better than a group of casters... It all really boils down to how coordinated the parties are and how skilled the players are... but if i were pugging for a pvp group i would definitely try to fill a balanced party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    one caster, one ranged DPS (arcane archer or rogue mechanin), two melee DPS, one divine caster, and one wild card....

    would have the grit and the versatility to beat a group of casters, for sure. Now of course there is no rule that says a balanced party will do better than a group of casters... It all really boils down to how coordinated the parties are and how skilled the players are... but if i were pugging for a pvp group i would definitely try to fill a balanced party.
    How to murder said party:

    First off, it's going to matter if it's an AA or a mechanic. If it's a mechanic(lolmechanic), 5 of the casters kill the other side's caster while the 6th goes and dances the divine. After that, clean up the other 4 via running backwards and MM/FM/meteor swarm.

    At worst, you'll lose 1 to the other arcane. 2 if the other side picks well and nukes the dancing caster.

    If it's an AA, 3 on AA, 2 on caster, 1 on divine. Clean up afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    ddo pvp is not balanced in groups, just like regular pvp, 12 warforged casters would destroy a balanced party.
    How about 12 Pale Masters?

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    My Balance is 40.
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    (how do I get interviewed by DDO because I have lots of cool ideas)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilta View Post
    kinda surprised h4x hasnt responded to this yet, oh well

    *munches on some of k1ngp1ns popcorn*
    Allow me to introduce you to:
    Quote Originally Posted by h4x0r1f1c View Post
    My Balance is 40.
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    And I didn't suggest any changes.
    Allow me to introduce you to:
    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss
    I think some kind of PvP system, such as a free-roam area where guilds/groups could compete for farming grounds, could be implemented for fun and intrigue.
    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    But if you want a fresh idea, i guess i can give it a shot... The EVIL alignment!
    Allow me to introduce you to: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...evil+alignment

    Right I tried to talk sense. I'm out. Can someone pass the popcorn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    what most pvp haters cite is the lack of balance... But classes in DDO are balanced... They are balanced to work together, not balanced to fight 1v1..

    For this reason, I think some kind of PvP system, such as a free-roam area where guilds/groups could compete for farming grounds, could be implemented for fun and intrigue.
    such a place exists. form your pvp loving parties, go speak to jackson laws and have at it with each other in a private challenge instance. battle for kills or play capture the flag. so no need to change the game. what you want is already there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pape_27 View Post
    such a place exists. form your pvp loving parties, go speak to jackson laws and have at it with each other in a private challenge instance. battle for kills or play capture the flag. so no need to change the game. what you want is already there.

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    I disagree! I think the current PvP system is incomplete and lacks incentive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    <snip>... and lacks incentive.

    and thats it, isn't it? PvP is broken/unfair because you don't get something for it? What do you want? A Chest? Renown? Tokens/Ingredients?

    Not going to happen. PvP is inherently too open for abuse and exploitation. If thats what you want, i would respectfully suggest that you stop playing ddo and go play Guildwars. It seems to be the type of game that you are looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pape_27 View Post
    and thats it, isn't it? PvP is broken/unfair because you don't get something for it? What do you want? A Chest? Renown? Tokens/Ingredients?

    Not going to happen. PvP is inherently too open for abuse and exploitation.

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    epics already are a place of abuse and eploitation. drop chests, renown, tokens and ingreds
    just saying.

    sorry for the interruption, keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    I disagree! I think the current PvP system is incomplete and lacks incentive.
    If I had my vote there would be no PvP in D&D or DDO so what there is currently is way to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prowessss View Post
    what most pvp haters cite is the lack of balance... But classes in DDO are balanced... They are balanced to work together, not balanced to fight 1v1..

    For this reason, I think some kind of PvP system, such as a free-roam area where guilds/groups could compete for farming grounds, could be implemented for fun and intrigue.
    competition for farming grounds+fun and intrigue= incentives...

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    No pvp MMO has ever been balanced in the history of the world, nor ever will be. Its not possible.

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    -1 OP. Actually I wish I could hit you for EACH of your posts...

    -Claiming this is YOUR Thread...Dude...this is a public Forum

    -For equating people with a different opinion than you on PvP as trolling

    -For using Caps to show you're yelling at everyone for both of the above reason

    -For encouraging wanton Exploitation in a scenario very few in DDO want or care about

    -For coming to a Forum of a game that cares little about PvP and YELLING at people and calling the Trolls because they don't agree with you


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