TR my 28point Rogue big time question which way....

[TitoFireknife]

hey guys,

iam not very sure which way i should go with my Rogue after TR. For Sure is i wanna go for Assasin III Pure Rogue DPS with some trap stuff. But should it be Dex based or Str. based???

i just took a paper and wrote somethign down to look but i cant decide. Maybe you Guys can get some input into me and help me for this TR decision....


First i thought about a Drow STR Based Khopesh User starting with
16/15/14/13/8/8 (STR+ for levels)
Taking feats in this order:
Toughness
TWF
Khopesh
ITWF
Crippling Strike
IC:Slash
GTWF
Slippering Mind
Power Attack
Skill Mastery

The other Hand is a Halfling Dex Rapier Build starting with
14/17/14/14/8/8 (DEX+ for levels)
feats in order:
TWF
Weapon Finesse
Toughness
ITWF
Crippling Strike
IC: Pierce
Imp. Evasion
GTWF
Defensive Roll
SF:UMD or PA
Skill Master

End Game Gear is there and maybe i buy a +2 supreme tome.

So what you think guys give me your thoughts to clear the clouds in my head. What would you change or do in my position?

Cheers
Titos

[Bodic]

what are you Tring from what GS end hame gear do you have

[DevilButcher]

Well I am just giving my two-cents since the choice is yours, but we all know Str build will out DPS a pure Dex build.

So just find your own balance between the two and go with it.

[Hokonoso]

before you TR make sure you greater reincarnate because a 28pt TR does not become a 34pt build, it becomes a 32pt build but still has the steep xp curve and the wings next to the name. you actually have to TR 3 times as a 28pt build to get 36pts.

[d4rkstars]

before you TR make sure you greater reincarnate because a 28pt TR does not become a 34pt build, it becomes a 32pt build but still has the steep xp curve and the wings next to the name. you actually have to TR 3 times as a 28pt build to get 36pts.

thats entirely wrong, if you are 28 pts and TR you will be 34 points - gz on spilling false knowledge mister the "reliable" lol

you can GR as much as you want if you dont have 32 points build you wont be 32 pts.
TR will make you 34 directly without needing purshase of 32 pts

as he is a drow (you should change it if you TR), you will have a 30 points drow (as drow are already 32 pts by nature, and to make it effectively 34 pts build), and if you TR again you will be 32 drow (but you cant be 36 drow)

to sum up
adventurer 28 pts =>TR=> hero 34 pts => TR => legend 36 points
adventurer drow 28 pts => TR => hero drow 30 points => TR => legend drow 34 points

TR 3 times has no more effect... having 32 points build (champion) has no effect on TR
of course being a drow as you TR loose some interest (as most f2p take them to be 32 pts) but thats your choice to make



from compendium :
All characters who True Reincarnate are given additional ability points to spend at character creation, as well as new enhancement options. If you are an Adventurer build (28 point character), you will receive 6 additional ability points.

http://www.ddo.com/ddogameinfo/devel...ue-reincarnate

[Qezuzu]

STR based Halfling with Rapiers.

Drop Finesse, pick up the Sneak of Shadows feat. It is epic.
Start with 14 STR, put all lvlups into STR.
Drop Defensive roll, get Opportunist.
16 CON
16 DEX for TWF Preq, eat a +1 DEX tome (they're dirt cheap)
14 INT
Rest into CHR

[TitoFireknife]

thx 4 the input so far....what you prefer for enhancements lines???

[Hokonoso]

thats entirely wrong, if you are 28 pts and TR you will be 34 points - gz on spilling false knowledge mister the "reliable" lol

you can GR as much as you want if you dont have 32 points build you wont be 32 pts.
TR will make you 34 directly without needing purshase of 32 pts

as he is a drow (you should change it if you TR), you will have a 30 points drow (as drow are already 32 pts by nature, and to make it effectively 34 pts build), and if you TR again you will be 32 drow (but you cant be 36 drow)

to sum up
adventurer 28 pts =>TR=> hero 34 pts => TR => legend 36 points
adventurer drow 28 pts => TR => hero drow 30 points => TR => legend drow 34 points

TR 3 times has no more effect... having 32 points build (champion) has no effect on TR
of course being a drow as you TR loose some interest (as most f2p take them to be 32 pts) but thats your choice to make



from compendium :
All characters who True Reincarnate are given additional ability points to spend at character creation, as well as new enhancement options. If you are an Adventurer build (28 point character), you will receive 6 additional ability points.

http://www.ddo.com/ddogameinfo/devel...ue-reincarnate

assuming you are right here, then they fixed it. i still know characters that are 32 pt TRs with wings as originally it was not this way as i assure u some ppl found that out the hard way.

[MalarKan]

well... STR based goes way ahead of dex based as dps... they can hit gollems and actually do dmg


if u want to aproach to the uthopy of the "best dps" rogue or at least be the most efficient, go str based, get some charisma for a good umd... consider using picks instead of rapiers... i love those crits...

and well... a strenght based rogue can be way better than most other dps builds... even better than tempest and fighters. can be better than barbs even hiting 30-60 each hit +90 average on sneaks ... hehe... all u will need is a good hate machine on your side... so yes, u can be awesome on dps, but u cant forget the HP ^^... get 450 minimum, since u r gona get lot of agro

however, u can go dex based too... what r the benefits?...
*great reflex... u will save the embarrasment of being incorporeal on a trap... (tho everyone fails on a 1)
*nice AC... since its dex based, with apropiate gear u can get 50 AC minimum... more than 60 with a nice shield
*dex skills... they can some skills maxed without spending much skill points on them leveling (u can get over 40 balance without spending a single point in it with a +15 item upon hiting level 20) (tumble ftw!)
*and u can be a lovable short and fluffy lil thing jumping arround, doing lil to no dmg to something, but totally rip it off if it turns arround...

anyways... there are lots good of things on each build.... just make your own build. pick the one u will have more fun... sure, the str build is a better dps... but u dont need to be the best dps to have fun in this game... i love my dex based acrobat, lighpicks weilder (thank you master touch scrolls!), true neutral aligment (i love you Light and Darkness shield!) and being a halgling lvl 20 rogue with 419 hp, can survive long enough to get healed on epics if i get agro ^^

anyways, if u go str based, u might consider trying another race... human? (extra feat)... how about dwarf? (500 standing hp? ... or warforged? (ugly mofo with inmunities) or even H-orc! (ugly goofy oversized dude with tons of dmg... mmmm lol... pick one, your choice... ^^

[stainer]

assuming you are right here, then they fixed it. i still know characters that are 32 pt TRs with wings as originally it was not this way as i assure u some ppl found that out the hard way.

Really?