People bringing multiple accounts into dragon event.

[Vengeance777]

I've noticed a few times now that people are bringing multiple toons on different accounts to the same instance of the dragon. Dual boxing. They enter and just stand there while playing another toon in same or different instance. Is this legal and if not what do we report it as in game I see no option for something like this in the report section?

I ask because we lost an altar because a toon known to be an alt for bank space went afk on the altar causing mobs to run at the altar. A guild member told us he saw the players main account fighting in another instance at the same time. So the player caused 1 instance to wipe while playing in another. Very frustrating. We could have used an active player in our instance not someone standing there preventing active players from joining ours.

[Bracosius]

One guy was guarding the alter?

[Vengeance777]

One guy was guarding the alter?

No multiples. Problem was the non participating player went afk on the altar. Mobs spawned and some would always run toward him on the altar. He had summoned a hireling and set it to defend before swapping to another other toon in a different instance. So the non playing account and hireling drew mobs to alter before others could grab mob aggro. There was no other arcane or healer in this instance just melee. Didn't realize the alt account wasn't playing, but dual boxing until it was too late.

[kernal42]

I've noticed a few times now that people are bringing multiple toons on different accounts to the same instance of the dragon. Dual boxing. They enter and just stand there while playing another toon in same or different instance. Is this legal and if not what do we report it as in game I see no option for something like this in the report section?

I ask because we lost an alter because a toon known to be an alt for bank space went afk on the alter causing mobs to run at the alter. A guild member told us he saw the players main account fighting in another instance at the same time. So the player caused 1 instance to wipe while playing in another. Very frustrating. We could have used an active player in our instance not someone standing there preventing active players from joining ours.

1: It's an "altar", not an "alter".

2: Yes, Turbine has never disallowed any form of dual boxing. If you were to complain, their response would be no different than if the player had gone AFK for some other reason (ie tornado).

3: I was under the impression that mobs would aggro on the altar whether or not there was someone there; if they were aggro'd on the player, then they wouldn't hurt the altar and there would be no reason to complain. I could be wrong here, though.

-Kernal

[dragons1ayer74]

Its one thing to dual box in a no fail easy quest but to dual box then pike a spot in a raid or this public event is bad form IMO.

[Chai]

1: It's an "altar", not an "alter".

Is there a problem officer? Wait wait...did you just say meow?

2: Yes, Turbine has never disallowed any form of dual boxing. If you were to complain, their response would be no different than if the player had gone AFK for some other reason (ie tornado).

Yeap, its basically up to the user to select those they group with. Sucks that theres now a quest in the game, however temporary, that doesnt allow for this. People can basically pike at will and there isnt a thing that can be done about it, heh.

Turbine makes more money on people who have more than one account, and its highly unlikely they would disallow dual boxing.

3: I was under the impression that mobs would aggro on the altar whether or not there was someone there; if they were aggro'd on the player, then they wouldn't hurt the altar and there would be no reason to complain. I could be wrong here, though.

If they aggroed the player and the player was AFK, the solution should have been to let their toon die, then carry on with the quest. Yeah it sucks and it would have been better to have an active player in the group instead.

[Samadhi]

There is nothing wrong with dual-boxing. Piking can be annoying in any form, however, and is the most common reason I used to squelch people (pre-this-sig /sigh)

[Vengeance777]

If they aggroed the player and the player was AFK, the solution should have been to let their toon die, then carry on with the quest.

Its hireling kept it alive sadly. And kept seering lighting gargoyles drawing it to altar. I guess when a healer summons a hireling its a sign not to trust that player to heal a room lol. Live and learn.

[Irinis]

So... how was it that none of you AND a hireling managed to keep the altar safe?

Don't blame the dualboxer, I know several people with the skill to have pulled that off well.

[Vengeance777]

Hireling was set only to heal the piker. None of the melee in room had a healer as a result of the healer and its hireling healer going to play another toon in a different instance without telling anyone. Melees were in a raid party could not summon hirelings of their own. By the time we realized what was going on and scrambled a spare arcane in another room with heal/res scrolls to replace the piker it was too late, melees were dead, the hireling was dead, piker was almost dead and the alter was destroyed.

I was on a lever solo upstairs fighting gargoyles at the time keeping the light on in the room.

Anyway original point of thread was, I was wondering if dual boxing was a terms of service violation?

If its not its still rude to bring a toon to pike in an alter room. If dual boxing is legal and you are going to dual box pike stay at the door. Please don't pike in the rooms or by the lever, 16 or more people are depending on you to help in the dragon fight.

[FlyingTurtle]

This is extremely uncool. People seem to be having problems understanding that you have no choice over your companions in this mission. It's not like, you brought a dual box to pike a raid for double the XP, and the leader allowed it.

[phalaeo]

I like the people who go into sneak mode in the corner. Classy.

[donfilibuster]

Pikers should at least stay in the corridors, if you are near the altar people passing by would think the place is guarded and move on to another room.