Intimidate WAI or Broken?

[Rasczak]

Been running with various groups as well as various intimitank builds and it seems like bosses that get intimidate ignore the person intimidating. ToD being the one I experienced the most.


Haven't seen another thread so if there is one please link it here but it seems like the skill is definitely not WAI. The boss gets the intimidate symbol above their head then buggers off.

Is this in some way due to paladins gains it as a class skill? Is there any mention of a fix....
Going to check the known bugs thread now again but hadn't seen anything before.

[Quikster]

Tried using it on the end boss in epic chrono tonight. It only worked about half the time. Was definitely passing the check.

Thats the only raid ive been doing since the update as ive been levling a tr so....

[Tuney]

I noticed when I was intimdating with my bard on the named Devil in Shroud. If used intimdate as soon as it refreshed , I couldn't have him stick on me. Yet if I waited a sec or two after it finished I could keep him locked on me.

[MajinSensei]

check this thread too - http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=281472

[synkos]

We had a problem with Sully in ToD yesterday, intim couldn't grab him for the life of it (and normally doesn't have issues with it).

[Rasczak]

Ty for the link.

I knew it couldn't just be me experiencing it.

[dogpig00]

i found intimidate will not work if you activate it right after it refreshes. The best way to do this is to activate about 0.8 seconds after it refresh. The boss will turn its head, but then it will turn it back to you and no attack will be made against the beaters.

[Astraghal]

I noticed when I was intimdating with my bard on the named Devil in Shroud. If used intimdate as soon as it refreshed , I couldn't have him stick on me. Yet if I waited a sec or two after it finished I could keep him locked on me.

Same.

[sephiroth1084]

Hadn't noticed any issues with intim until tonight, mostly because I'd been using it as a supplement to DPS, but a ToD run went sideways and I tried grabbing Horoth's aggro so we could stabilize. Had him for about 3 seconds before he went off to chew on somebody else. Something is definitely wrong with intim (either in general or on Horoth specifically).

[Lifeblood]

Hadn't noticed any issues with intim until tonight, mostly because I'd been using it as a supplement to DPS, but a ToD run went sideways and I tried grabbing Horoth's aggro so we could stabilize. Had him for about 3 seconds before he went off to chew on somebody else. Something is definitely wrong with intim (either in general or on Horoth specifically).

that someone else was my rogue and I was on trash duty..

[Lewcipher]

VoD Elite, happened often. My Intimi-bard has a no-fail against Suulo. He would keep turning around, even if I waited about a 1/2 second or so. He would shrug it off, and pound sand...

[Zharfie]

did VoD and ToD once on my intimi since the update with no problems at all... even the judge was stuck on me all the time, before he'd teleport every time I hit the intimidate.

but did anyone stop to wonder why half-elves get extra intim/diplo/bluff on separate cooldown?

[joaofalcao]

Heres my 2 cents.

What I believe we are facing is the intimilag. Since U7. It was worse when we had deleras event, wich just gives further evidence to believe its lag.

When I first had it, I was sorta clueless. After some time I realized It could have been lag.

I turtle up most of the times, especially at raid bosses. When I turtle up, all I do is madly press my intimi shortcut button. The first time it works, the second, it does not. The boss leaves me and start running amok.

My theory was I was pressing the intimidate after the cooldown on my client, but the time the server got my request, the cooldown on the server wasnt done yet. That expends an "intimi charge", makes me on a cooldown, and screws the partys life.

While I cant prove it, the workaround I am using seems to work and gives ground to my theory. Instead of pressing it madly, I wait one or two seconds after the intimidate cooldown, then I press it again. It solved so far and most of the bosses dont turn and brings amok in just 2 seconds.

Another thing that wasnt work was intimirunning. If a mob was running too fast, my intimi wasnt working as well. And that again gives ground to my theory. If I was having lag, the time I intimin the mob, it would have been far away from me on the server. Again, being on the mobs way or asking ppls to stop running like a headless chicken solved that issue as well.

I dont have the time to read 4 pages worth of discussion, but I hope I am adding something new. I ll try to catch you up.

[Astraghal]

I'm still waiting for answers.

Intimidate was changed around the time of update 7, why hasn't this been addressed yet?

[redoubt]

I noticed when I was intimdating with my bard on the named Devil in Shroud. If used intimdate as soon as it refreshed , I couldn't have him stick on me. Yet if I waited a sec or two after it finished I could keep him locked on me.

I've noticed several spell and spell like clickies have trouble going through if I try them right when the timer expires. The animation goes (so the timer is over) but the spell does not cast. If I wait a second after I see the timer expire it normally goes through.

My current guess is that it is a new client server issue (as it used to work better.)

[Vallin]

It is interesting - in a lot of pugs over the weekend people talked about intim and were saying "Just use intim!" when they wanted a mob to change aggro. I am not convinced that everyone who was saying that really understood that intim has a DC.

Perhaps there is a greater awareness of intim out there with the pally change and people are trying to use it but not getting that a 6 cha half orc barb can't get aggro by pushing the intim button - they can only get aggro by smashing or chopping!

I was impressed by two epic DQ runs and an elite VoD where a S&B intimitank glued the boss aggro in spot. I would say it works just fine if you meet the intim requirements for any given mob - but you can still always roll a '1'!

Vallin.

[Jiipster]

but you can still always roll a '1'!

Sure, but skill checks don't autofail on a 1

[Vallin]

Sure, but skill checks don't autofail on a 1

Correct - I was inaccurate and was referring to requirements - meaning that a 1 would fail if you didn't meet the requirement.

[eonfreon]

I was impressed by two epic DQ runs and an elite VoD where a S&B intimitank glued the boss aggro in spot. I would say it works just fine if you meet the intim requirements for any given mob - but you can still always roll a '1'!

Vallin.

Do you always fail on a "1"? I didn't think Intimidate worked that way.

I thought it was like UMD and Disable Devices, that if you rolled a 1 + your modified score equaled the threshold number you still succeeded. Also if you rolled a 20 + your modified score didn't equal the threshold then you failed.

However, what's being talked about is where the Intimidate succeeds, and you know it succeeds because you see the dice roll (and it actually tells you that it's successful or a failure- it pops on your screen "intimidate success" or "intimidate failure" ) and the "hand" graphic pops overhead of the successfully intimidated MOB, and yet the MOB then ignores the intimidator.

Some monsters have bugged out from time to time, but on MOBs that can be intimidated and are successfully intimidated, the MOB does not normally switch aggro during the duration of the intimidate.

[Vallin]

However, what's being talked about is where the Intimidate succeeds, and you know it succeeds because you see the dice roll (and it actually tells you that it's successful or a failure- it pops on your screen "intimidate success" or "intimidate failure" ) and the "hand" graphic pops overhead of the successfully intimidated MOB, and yet the MOB then ignores the intimidator.

I have not personally seen this happen, but it would not shock me.

Is it possible that there are too many dynamics in play (meta-game) such as modem connections, lag, your own computer, etc. that it is possible for intermittent glitches like this to occur?

I don't see this as a 'totally broken' issue and just wonder if these other dynamic factors might cause problems on an individual basis.

Vallin.