Game play change needed badly

[Lorz]

I can not tell you how silly I find this issue and the fact no one has brought it up before. Knock downs by trash mobs that lock you knocked down are stupid and need to be removed from the game. There is no way to defend it. Balance only helps with the time you stay on the ground so if you have 10+ mobs hitting you with some knock down then your screwed. It slows down game play and just ****es me off in general. If your going to have it AT LEAST GIVE ME A WAY TO DEFEND AGAINST IT. Balance is not a defense.

This is where we point out that you obviously do not understand the game.

What ****es you off is a lack of player skill....work on that.

I hear str will help with knockdown.
And dex can too....but if you find it that big a problem...then time to look inward.

[Eladrin]

also try blocking

This is true - you can block while prone, and it should prevent secondary effects of most attacks. We really should make "hold block while you're on the ground" a loading screen tip.

[flynnjsw]

Well I was either hoping for some helpful info or an official word they know this is a issue. Guess the trolls and the 5 year olds are out tonight. This is the only thing I see wrong with this game and yes when running slayers I should be able to run up and take on 5-10 mobs at one time.

There is no issue to be made aware of except for your lack of knowledge and preparation.

[flynnjsw]

This is true - you can block while prone, and it should prevent secondary effects of most attacks. We really should make "hold block while you're on the ground" a loading screen tip.

How dare you reply to a qq thread on a Sunday. The OP already said that there was no useful advice and here you are pointing out the error in their ways. I call Troll.

[Stormanne]

Well I was either hoping for some helpful info or an official word they know this is a issue. Guess the trolls and the 5 year olds are out tonight. This is the only thing I see wrong with this game and yes when running slayers I should be able to run up and take on 5-10 mobs at one time.

-1 for thinking you know the game better than people who actually understand how the game mechanics work, for being dismissive of good ideas from those people, and for being rude to everyone who didn't agree with your whiny post.

This is true - you can block while prone, and it should prevent secondary effects of most attacks. We really should make "hold block while you're on the ground" a loading screen tip.

While it would make a good tip, most people who I know figured this out a while ago..

[Jay203]

-1 for thinking you know the game better than people who actually understand how the game mechanics work, for being dismissive of good ideas from those people, and for being rude to everyone who didn't agree with your whiny post.

sounds to me like a WoW-spoiled player that wants everything to be toned down to their lvl instead of upping their own skill

While it would make a good tip, most people who I know figured this out a while ago..

more like anyone with a brain figured out

[Thrudh]

I can not tell you how silly I find this issue and the fact no one has brought it up before. Knock downs by trash mobs that lock you knocked down are stupid and need to be removed from the game. There is no way to defend it. Balance only helps with the time you stay on the ground so if you have 10+ mobs hitting you with some knock down then your screwed. It slows down game play and just ****es me off in general. If your going to have it AT LEAST GIVE ME A WAY TO DEFEND AGAINST IT. Balance is not a defense.

It's the only way my solo wizard ever comes close to dieing (also an occasional dance spell gets me)... so no, don't change it... There has to be SOME danger in this game...

Although I agree balance should help with your defense as well as how fast one gets up.

[Ducaster]

I can not tell you how silly I find this issue and the fact no one has brought it up before.

Two things:-

1) yes I get annoyed when knocked down as well. That is the IDEA of it....

2) See above quote, did it occur to you that it hasn't been given much forum time because the real players have either learned to live with it or play around it by superior tactics?

If it happens to you ALL the time with ALL your toons then you seriously need to respec them coz it sure don't happen to mine ALL the time.. And yes I sometimes send my Barb into fight Mobs as you describe very occasionally he is knocked down for a while but only once in the last month was he beaten to death by being held in knock down mode as you seem to describe.

I seriously don't think its the game's fault friend. If that makes me a Troll then call me greenie..

[Irinis]

if you guys had your way the monsters would be hitting us with flowers and die when you look at them the wrong way.

Yeah, don't need a dating simulator in this game kthxbai!

[donfilibuster]

Holy cow i didn't know u could block while knocked, u learn something every day.

Anyways, the OP rant was commonplace a while a go, know that the air eles have been nerfed already.
All enemy CC has been nerfed as well so that it doesn't repeat over and over and never permanent.

Points were out in favor or against but in the end the knock is already nerfed and likely don't need it again.
No need calling people trolls, or features silly, they all have stats to counter.
Like for people complaining about hold person, when SR could block it entirely, yet it made into the CC nerf.

On the other hand you gotta love the air ele summon that threws all your foes around the room.

[knightgf]

This is true - you can block while prone, and it should prevent secondary effects of most attacks. We really should make "hold block while you're on the ground" a loading screen tip.

I'm glad to see this isn't a bug. I was a bit worried for the longest time ever that the benefits of blocking while prone was a bug that gained you somewhat of a odd advantage.

[Glenalth]

The new blocking while knocked down animation is cool.

[Astria]

Get a lot of guard items and tell everyone you're specced for trip.

[jmonty]

This is true - you can block while prone, and it should prevent secondary effects of most attacks. We really should make "hold block while you're on the ground" a loading screen tip.

"not the face! not the face!"

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Well I was either hoping for some helpful info or an official word they know this is a issue. Guess the trolls and the 5 year olds are out tonight. This is the only thing I see wrong with this game and yes when running slayers I should be able to run up and take on 5-10 mobs at one time.

You were given some helpful responses showing you why its not an issue and why this game requires a bit of skill and planning to deal with things like this.

Your namecalling response is inappropriate

/reported

[moorewr]

Well I was either hoping for some helpful info or an official word they know this is a issue. Guess the trolls and the 5 year olds are out tonight. This is the only thing I see wrong with this game and yes when running slayers I should be able to run up and take on 5-10 mobs at one time.

Eladrin's comment about blocking when prone is probably all the official response you will see.

This is for good reason.. tripping and knockdown are part of the tactical complexity of this game, not a bug or a bad design. As others have mentioned there's many ways to mitigate the minor risk imposed by air elementals or dogs in slayer zones.

[yams]

Well I was either hoping for some helpful info or an official word they know this is a issue. Guess the trolls and the 5 year olds are out tonight. This is the only thing I see wrong with this game and yes when running slayers I should be able to run up and take on 5-10 mobs at one time.

You got help, you're simply ignoring it. Here are things every character should know (I know "get more str" isn't an option for every class):

1. If you get knocked down hit your block key. Blocking stops most special actions, including trip.
2. When you get up from being knocked down realize "Hey, this monster will knock my ass down if I just stand here" and start moving around. Yes, you've entered into a game with (semi)active combat!
3. If you think you should be able to take down 5-10 monsters that you know spam trip and not get tripped...think again! In other words rethink your tactics.
4. A game being moderately difficult at some point is not "an issue." In fact, I think the devs would be thrilled to find that some people do still find the more mundane parts of this game challenging.
5. There are much worse things than being gang tripped and beat down.
6. 5 year olds can't formulate sentences like the ones in this thread.

[jwdaniels]

I never knew you could block while knocked down, of course it makes perfect sense now that it was mentioned.

[Tom_Hunters]

it's a str/dex check

so get the best item u have, and if u are str-based, get rage or the named items granting u rage bonuses

and usually those minotaurs/giants are slow moving, hit them before they knock
minotaurs are easy to deal with, usually i run to its back and chop it off before it can even turn its head

giants use AoE knock but they don't move fast enough to kill u before u get up

also equip some Ring of Balance/boot of balance or the like with +10 balance bonus, u will get up in a sec or two

[Glenalth]

Another issue the OP is having is being surrounded. If you are fighting mobs that can knock down or trip you, get in a good defensive spot, possibly against a wall or in an inside corner. Make sure that a limited number of them can hit you at once. If you're surrounded by 10 mobs that can eliminate your movement ability, you've done something horribly wrong.