Little help with gear...

[Darcmyst]

I'm a bit confused as to how various gear bonuses work together. (or don't)

Using http://perfectweb.org/ddo/crafting/n...e_crafting.php

GS crafted items like say air/air/air offer WizVI, +50sp, +100sp. Would this all stack offering 300? (600 for sorc?)
Also lists +1exc CHA, +2exc CHA, +3exc CHA. Would this be this be a total of +12 from gear?

Adding to the above I have the dilemma of making a HP item instead. Earth/earth/earth....+10hp +1con/+15hp +2con/+20 +3con. Similar question as the above.

Depending on how the SP item works, if I had Archmagi item elsewhere would it remove the need for the SP item? I ask as a 28pt Drow trying to get enough life to work in epic runs. Currently 307 with toughness + enchancments + Minos + GFL.

[Nyvn]

The different tiers of greensteel stack with each other. This is true of Spell Points, Hit Points, and exceptional Stats.

50+100=150 so it doubles to 300, not 600 for a sorc/fvs.

[Darcmyst]

Ok I guess I had just seen many "builds" listing exceptional stats of +3, mostly on ToD rings, but never +6 exceptional. Is this because of something better? What am I missing?

edit: Re-read your post, you list the +50 and +100sp, but left out the Wiz VI....is it not included?

[vVAnjilaVv]

Ok I guess I had just seen many "builds" listing exceptional stats of +3, mostly on ToD rings, but never +6 exceptional. Is this because of something better? What am I missing?

edit: Re-read your post, you list the +50 and +100sp, but left out the Wiz VI....is it not included?

The +3 exceptional bonuses they are speaking of would be the total sum of the +1exceptional and +2 exceptional......IIRC...exceptional stat bonues do not go up to +3...there is only +1 and +2 atm......but yet they do stack.

Don't bother putting WIZARDRY VI on your GS.......you can get wizardry VI belts and necklaces and also archmagi belts quite easily from Amarath quests...they drop all the time.....so it's a waste of a slot on your GS...put something more useful on it.

[vVAnjilaVv]

Actually I would like to edit what I said a little......for FvS and Sorcs that are planning on TR'ing.....putting WIZARDRY IV on your GS can be quite nice as they are ML 11 to equip.......so on your trip through TR'ing you will get quite a nice boost to SP....but for the other casting classes, it's only a matter of 50 sp as you will easily have a magi item by level 11....so u have to ask yourself if you can live through 7 levels with 50 less SP....which can actually be quite a long time when even TRing x1.

[Darcmyst]

Anjila, could you do me the favor of looking at the builder link I posted above? It is telling me the Wiz VI is part of the exc +1 CHA tier 1. It also lists a +3 CHA exc bonus with +100sp. Is the builder flawed, or am I interpreting it incorrectly? Using Air/Air/Air.

[Rawel_San]

The +1,+2,+3 is exceptional cha SKILLS not exceptional cha. These bonuses are bonuses
to charisma based skills. And they do stack up to a +6 excepitonal bonus all three together.

[Darcmyst]

D'oh, thanks for clarification. Makes more sense now, but as to the Wiz VI, it doesn't stack with the +50-100sp options?

[vVAnjilaVv]

Anjila, could you do me the favor of looking at the builder link I posted above? It is telling me the Wiz VI is part of the exc +1 CHA tier 1. It also lists a +3 CHA exc bonus with +100sp. Is the builder flawed, or am I interpreting it incorrectly? Using Air/Air/Air.

Ahhh...are you looking for exceptional skills or exceptional stats.

Exceptional skill bonus is currently +1 tier one, +2 tier 2, +3 tier 3 for a total of +6 to the skills related to that stat...IE....if u make a triple positive item you will end up with +6 to CHA SKILLS....not stats....and u will in turn get a bonus of +6 to all ur charisma based skills (UMD, Intimidate, Diplomacy, Bluff)

Exceptional STAT bonuses tho are +1 Tier 2 and +2 Tier 3 which do stack as well and will give you a total of +3 to your CHA STAT.


Another thing to note for GS stuff...the exceptional SKILL bonuses only come on items.....

the exceptional STAT bonuses only come on weapons.

[BossOfEarth]

That's a +6 exceptiional Cha bonus to *skills.* It doesn't increase your stat, so it doesn't help with casting. But even so, +6 exceptional Cha *skills*is great for skills like UMD.

If you want an exceptional Cha bonus (to the stat) then ToD, and Green steel weapons have exceptional bonuses. There are also some Epic items that have Charisma +7, which is something that exceptional bonuses stack with.

Edit: Blue ninjaed!

[vVAnjilaVv]

D'oh, thanks for clarification. Makes more sense now, but as to the Wiz VI, it doesn't stack with the +50-100sp options?

The wizardry VI does indeed stack with the tier 2 +50 and the tier 3 +100....and for a Sorc and FVS...this would be a grand total of 600 SP...for everyone else 300.

One thing to note...Wizardry DOES NOT stack with Magi, Archmagi, or Power Items. So if your Sorc is already toting around a Magi sceptre...the first tier is only going to give you an additional 100 SP to your previous total, not 300.

[vVAnjilaVv]

Edit: Blue ninjaed!

*snickers*

[Darcmyst]

Awesome, thanks all. +rep to you!