Palemaster II + Cleric enhancements

[richieelias27]

Specifically, my question is does the PMII +35% negative damage, +6% negative crit rate, and +1.5 crit damage stack with Cleric enhancements for a grand total of +65% negative energy damage, +12% crit rate and +3% crit damage just from enhancements?

I am not asking a question regarding the effectiveness of such a build, but rather asking if it works that way. I know enhancements arent supposed to stack with themselves, but currently this is the only one that would even allow such a stacking situation to take place (in all other cases taking one energy type enhancer would disable all other like enhancements)

[Depravity]

Since up until recently the pale master boosts weren't working properly anyway, this is most likely one of those "nobody knows" things. It's on my list of things to try, but it's not very far up it.

[richieelias27]

If only Wiz12/Cleric8 werent such a worthless class split...

I'm mostly thinking ahead to the vamp touch spell and Spiritwall if they ever took a notion to adding that one.

[gurgar78]

If only Wiz12/Cleric8 werent such a worthless class split...

I'm mostly thinking ahead to the vamp touch spell and Spiritwall if they ever took a notion to adding that one.

Wiz12/Cle7/Mon1 melee in lichform with DP and DF as usuable spells, extra negative energy damage from lich form as well as necrotic bolt/blast.

For some reason the thought of a lichform character using clerics radiant burst ability makes me snicker. I don't think it'd be terribly effective, but it might be a fun class to play.

That said, I suspect the enhancements would not stack. Even if they did for now, it would probably get fixed in an upcoming update.

[richieelias27]

I dont figure there would be any reason for it *not* to. In my opinion Prestige granted abilities should stack with similar enhancements (and they generally do dont they?). The problem here is that they are coming from two different classes, so maybe they just didnt think of the possibility when they made it. Besides, its not like there are any negative energy spells that would be made anthing near overpowered by such a boost.

[Depravity]

Bad news - there appears to be no stacking.

Made a 6 wizard/1 cleric character.
Two testing modalities -
1) Use lesser death aura on a summoned skelly
2) Use necrotic touch on a summoned skelly

Lesser death aura produces a d4 of negative damage. With 25% boost, one would expect a spread of 1,2,3,5 since the software tends to round down. So the only value that goes up is the 4. If the cleric stacks, 35% would let 3 go up to a 4, producing 1,2,4,5. Both with and without the cleric life magic I, the spread on the aura was 1,2,3,5.

Necrotic touch was averaged over 100 data points, with crits excluded. The average with just PM I was 29.47, PM I and Life Magic I was 30.21. That's about 2.5% difference, and probably within expected variations for a sample space this small (I saw 200 out of 6^7* or 279936 possible rolls). Using an average of all points, divided by 1.25 to remove the boost, then 7 to get the average per die, we get 3.41 per die, or slightly lower than the expected 3.5, but still close enough I'm not too worried.

*Side note - necrotics go up with character level, not wizard level, much like the monk healing finisher. So even splash wizards can have full strength necrotic effects.

Data points

PM	PM+Cler I
28	22
28	41
31	36
26	22
31	35
33	35
33	22
26	28
27	37
23	21
26	25
30	28
31	37
41	28
25	26
18	28
37	20
32	26
27	38
21	23
22	30
32	35
41	36
30	26
27	27
32	37
26	26
27	32
26	30
33	32
33	30
27	16
26	20
42	40
32	26
40	21
33	23
31	36
32	31
32	28
23	16
33	36
25	32
26	35
25	32
31	31
27	42
18	40
28	35
28	25
28	41
28	32
22	25
21	33
27	31
31	36
23	30
33	33
28	26
31	23
27	26
36	23
26	23
46	35
36	25
26	33
31	27
35	32
26	31
31	25
33	27
31	28
25	32
23	37
26	41
42	27
40	41
35	30
31	32
28	26
27	31
35	25
21	40
32	36
21	28
18	26
31	41
37	22
35	33
25	30
32	21
27	32
28	23
25	27
31	33
26	35
36	35
30	36
32	41
30	31
29.47	30.21