WAI? Pale Master & Incap

[Bogenbroom]

Hey folks,

Before I bug report this, I thought I'd bounce off the forumites to see if it is WAI.

Was on my Pale Master yesterday, in Lich form, with death aura going. I went incap and I stopped getting healed by my death aura. What's more, although I stabilized, I did not regain heal from unconscious regen.

Feedback?

Danke!

[Vellrad]

I don't know what is intended in DDO, and what is not, but be happy that pale master don't work as in PnP, where all undead are destroyed when they have 0HP .

[gurgar78]

Getting stuck incap'd as a pale master in form seems like a bug.

My guess is that "unconscious recovery" or whatever it's called is consider a positive energy effect so PM is immune to it while in form. Wasn't an issue before because as soon as lich form timer ran out, you lost 4 con and you immediately died. With permanent forms now, this is something that needs to be addressed.

[gurgar78]

I don't know what is intended in DDO, and what is not, but be happy that pale master don't work as in PnP, where all undead are destroyed when they have 0HP .

I'd be fine with this as the solution. When in undead form, you do not go incap, you just immediately die anytime you reach less than 1 hp.

[richieelias27]

/death does exactly what you're looking for there

[samthedagger]

/death does exactly what you're looking for there

And I am sure that if this does not get addressed in a timely fashion, this is exactly the reason that will be used as a justification. Honestly, it would be a lot more convenient if you just died once you reached 0 hp in shroud form.

[richieelias27]

I'm definitely not saying its a justification, but its got to be better than sitting there doing nothing when theres a rez shrine 2 feet away... hehe.

What they should do is just cancel out the Undead form on incap. Easy peasy. Granted that would still = death in Lich form, but wraiths would still have a chance...

[jcTharin]

I'm definitely not saying its a justification, but its got to be better than sitting there doing nothing when theres a rez shrine 2 feet away... hehe.

What they should do is just cancel out the Undead form on incap. Easy peasy. Granted that would still = death in Lich form, but wraiths would still have a chance...

wait... there are people who use wrath form?

[Scraap]

I'd be fine with this as the solution. When in undead form, you do not go incap, you just immediately die anytime you reach less than 1 hp.

There's also the whole phylactery bit of course if taking things from the lich template. IE- treating your soul-stone as a rez shrine. Granted, I can see a lot of yelling while leveling over that, but at cap, that might actually be of benefit.

[richieelias27]

wait... there are people who use wrath form?

I'd assume those would be the people that wanted a chance at incap healing the most!

[Bogenbroom]

wait... there are people who use wrath form?

Weeeellll... the PM I was on is actually a Pale Master / Monk. So if I am looking to stat damage I would *occasionally* use wraith form. MoB wraps + wraith hit con damage. Does some nastiness on some things.

But yes, Lich is much more common. Makes me wonder why both are achieved at the same level.

Edit: Also, wraith form is good when you for the ghost-touch effect. Again, purely melee.