RAGE, just want to AVOID it

[qes]

especially have a option that we can accept buffs or not accept them, so far there is certain buffs that no one complains about those being energy prot and resists
however haveing the option to accept certain buffs would really be the answer am looking for.

Finally people are really getting down to the nuts and bolts of what should be happening.

[sirgog]

This is incorrect. In most content you do NOT need every point of ac you can get. A -2 Penalty to ac should not affect your incoming damage too much at all if you are truly an ac build with decent gear. I have a ranger tempest that gets upper 80's ac while raid buffed and can buff my own ac up to upper 70's and maintain it. I would rather have rage and use PA in 99% of the content than not do so. From someone who has an ac build, if a -2 penalty has a noticeable adverse affect on your incoming damage then you are not geared enough to be tanking anyway.

When you have the aggro of Suulomades in Elite ToD, the difference between 85 AC and 87 AC is that you take *almost triple the incoming melee damage*. You go from being able to be healed by a ranger with nothing other than wands of Remove Curse and Cure Serious to requiring a toon with UMD to heal you.

Of course, if your AC is 89, Rage is actually beneficial in that encounter.

[krud]

What about when enemy mobs/purple balls cast tensers on my caster, can i have the option to cancel that "buff" as well?

[joneb1999]

Well first the idea of a popup asking if you want to accept a buff is all well and good but that could be messy when you are starting the raid and about 10 buffs fly across the screen in nearly an instance. The answer could be to have only buffs with potential negatives such as rage have a popup.

BUT there is actually a way to avoid getting unwanted buffs already, communicate you dont want them beforehand and move away. If whoever is buffing goes ahead because he doesnt care and gives you the unwanted buff anyway, in a quest where it will really mess things up big time, then you probably dont want to partying with him in the first place in that instance.

[Riggs]

Nice to know that defensive stance will pop rage off - just tested it and yeah it works.

People that say ac doesnt matter;

Dont know what high level ac is, and therefore do not understand the basic math involved of a build getting hit twice as much say with that simple -2 at the wrong time, (like say going from getting hit on a 19-20 to getting hit on a 17-20 = 2x the damage, for a tiny +1 to damage - math should be easier - but apparently its not) and

Are completely ignorant in tone and game understanding that some people have yes - spent months grinding for ac gear, like say 40 runs of Titan simply for the huge benefit of a +3 ac ring - to have it negated every quest, and that yes in fact - someone who has spent 6 months grinding out ac gear ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEIR AC. And someone who has spent time on ac actually knows the benefit of having ac vs getting hit all the time; and lastly

Trotting out the tired stupid arguments "Well if -2 ac matters you need to reroll or get better gear (see above), or else ac doesnt matter anyway so we dont care"

Here is a fun fact too - if +1 damage actually MATTERS to your so called dps build? You need to reroll because the build is gimp then - and pay your clerics more too because guess who picks up the slack.

Anyone who really doesnt think ac matters should spend more time playing a cleric, because they apparently dont either dont know what is actually keeping their 12 ac barb alive all this time - or expects everyone ELSE to spend massive amounts of cash on pots to keep up with their gimp build needing tons of heals.

Because there is actually parts of the game (gasp), that are not '10 people massed around one boss getting mass heals'. Go figure - there is more than 1 fight in the game eh?

[Oran_Lathor]

The one that kills me is deathward blocking healing in shroud-forms. This is still happening, grr. The workaround given the new mechanic of PM is to exit and re-enter your form, at a net cost of 100 sp.

[sirdanile]

I had a ranger get all ticked off in a shroud earlier because of this.
"Stop casting rage on me!"
"whats your ac?"
"35"
*facepalm*

*sorc moves away from group says "If you want rage stand on me"*

Ranger: GAH whats so freakin hard about not casting rage on me!!?!?!
Cleric: Why don't you have the songs or mass buffs we just cast?
Ranger: I stood away to avoid getting raged!

*doublepalm*

[Lleren]

i'd rather have means to stop barkskin and camouflage (and stoneskin on my pure fvs)

I would love the option to cancel friendly buffs.

Sorry my barb does not want your Barkskin.

[ninjaeli]

Why?

I'm sorry your gonna have to explain your position on this one.
Why would you not want a rage? And where is this happening to you? So we can understand why this is an issue.

I have just about every class of toon...and cannot think of a reason you wouldn't want rage.

i can if you a high ac nut and you want to squeeze every pt you can.

[sephiroth1084]

I can't help but think how many spells get cast on a person while in a raid or dungeon. I think we need to take this a step further and have a pop-up window ask us if we would like to accept the spell being cast on us. That way we can pick only the spells we want.

Excessive and clunky. Simply adding the ability to either right click the buff icon on your buff bar (which seriously needs to be extended all the way across the screen or wrapped), or the ability to right click buffs in your focus orb and dismiss them is the best possible solution to this issue, since it is passive (don't get 20 accept dialogue boxes popping up at the start of the quest, or during fights--think about how many buffs you get mid-combat and how annoying that would be) and covers all situations effectively.

[TimethiefXVI]

Excessive and clunky. Simply adding the ability to either right click the buff icon on your buff bar (which seriously needs to be extended all the way across the screen or wrapped), or the ability to right click buffs in your focus orb and dismiss them is the best possible solution to this issue, since it is passive (don't get 20 accept dialogue boxes popping up at the start of the quest, or during fights--think about how many buffs you get mid-combat and how annoying that would be) and covers all situations effectively.

yapp. a window popping up would be too messy.

just give it the option dismiss buff by rightclicking the icon. buffs from npcs should be excluded

[qes]

I agree with being able to simply right click on icon or in the orb and dismiss a buff would be great, escpecially buffs that do have negative effects.

[NaturalHazard]

I would love the option to cancel friendly buffs.

Sorry my barb does not want your Barkskin.

Yes but you prob hate to hear this but your barb actually is less of a visual eyesore to the rest of the party if he looks like walking tree bark, thats why I also slap camo on him too, believe me its an improvement.

[flynnjsw]

style of wanting to play toon, i can certainly continue on with other reasons why i do not want rage as well as input from others that do not want rage as well.
I understand the thought behind the values that some feel are of use for certain things from rage, however just a simple and heartfelt request of being able to have a means of being to not get rage or being able to cancel it would be great.

As I have said before I do not want to get this into a argument for or against rage, simply put a simple request of being able to cancel rage is what i want as well as numerous others desire.

this forum area is for request for enhancements not otherwise.

If you don't want an argument, don't post on a public forum. Ever.

[asphodeli]

RWAR! I'm so angry that I need to cast spells! *foams at mouth*

Seriously though, unless you really need that 2 AC (which is highly unlikely currently due to the amount of gear that is required to make an effective AC tank) be a man and take it. Its not the end of the world. At least you have +2 stacking CON.

PS: Can we have a new feat, Ragecast? That would be awesome!

[AyumiAmakusa]

RWAR! I'm so angry that I need to cast spells! *foams at mouth*

You're either an 8 int Wiz with max str or a barbarian with a wiz multiclass. I can't tell.

[sephiroth1084]

If you don't want an argument, don't post on a public forum. Ever.

Well, one could hope that the discussion/argument would at least revolve around the topic, rather than the irrelevant details.

[sirdanile]

Yes but you prob hate to hear this but your barb actually is less of a visual eyesore to the rest of the party if he looks like walking tree bark, thats why I also slap camo on him too, believe me its an improvement.

Camo first, then stoneskin makes you look all like a ghost...

Barkskin ALMOST mimics the effect...

[jcTharin]

Since U7, yes. At least the Rage-spell - Madstone remains. Haven't tried it with Barb Rage.

i did not know that. thanks.

i will need to remember that if i make a ac build. or if the fighter gets mad at me for making him angry.

[RequiemVampie]

Well OP, you didn't want this to become an issue and now it is. -2 AC is not that big of a deal and AC means squat in Epic content anyway.

Maybe the 'scream' sound fx of the spell scares the OP? j/k