(TR) 12ftr/6barb/2rog TWF + 34pt + dwarven axes + (Half orc or Dwarf) = mmm?

[Irask]

Going from 12ftr/6barb/2rog 28pt into a 12ftr/6barb/2rog 34pt TR, I'm a dwarven axe evasion dps build. Half Orc or Dwarf?

Any advice?

[blitzschlag]

well, dwarven axe favours dwarves, no?

[Irask]

yes they do, and half orcs +2 strength no?

so just matter of sacrificing 2 dwarven axe damage for 2 str.

[Quikster]

yes they do, and half orcs +2 strength no?

so just matter of sacrificing 2 dwarven axe damage for 2 str.

+4 str
+ to melee damage with two handers
+ to power attack

[blitzschlag]

yes they do, and half orcs +2 strength no?

so just matter of sacrificing 2 dwarven axe damage for 2 str.

its actually 4 strength more (possibly). but you need a feat also or have -4 to attack (can be a problem in epics depending on your gear)

[Irask]

+4 base? coz ill be taking OTWF since i am not a barb

[Quikster]

+4 base? coz ill be taking OTWF since i am not a barb

+2 base, +2 enhancements.

Take otwf if you want, but if youre kensai you prolly wont need it.

[blitzschlag]

+4 base? coz ill be taking OTWF since i am not a barb

+2 base and +2 racial enhancement

[Irask]

Ill be Kensei 2, FB 1. i wont have a problem hitting coz i have good end game gear. but just dont like having a penalty.

[Quikster]

Ill be Kensei 2, FB 1. i wont have a problem hitting coz i have good end game gear. but just dont like having a penalty.

Then i wouldnt take otwf. Your to hit is going to be through the roof really.

Half orc has more synergy with two handers, but certainly viable with twf. I guess if theres nothing else to take you could take otwf, but I dont think you will have that many extra feats.

You could not take toughness, quickdraw, stunning blow etc, but all those add more to the build imo then otwf. If going half orc, you prolly should fit in khopesh as well.

[blitzschlag]

otwf is not necessary. but you need to take weapon profiency in dwarven axe to be able to use it...

[Quikster]

otwf is not necessary. but you need to take weapon profiency in dwarven axe to be able to use it...

Which is why he should go khopesh if going half orc If I was going to be sticking with daxes I would go dwarf.

[blitzschlag]

Which is why he should go khopesh if going half orc If I was going to be sticking with daxes I would go dwarf.

yeah, thats the point. considering he maybe got "decent" tier 3 greensteels he should stay dwarf

[Quikster]

yeah, thats the point. considering he maybe got "decent" tier 3 greensteels he should stay dwarf

Yeah thats a question only the builder can answer. I have a friend that would build something dwarf based on his greensteel already crafted. Me, I just recraft it.

I dont think its a huge deal either way, if he wants to go dwarf, the build will be more than viable. He loses +6 str while raged,and +3 pa enhancements, but thats not going to break the build, just lower the dps some

[blitzschlag]

Yeah thats a question only the builder can answer. I have a friend that would build something dwarf based on his greensteel already crafted. Me, I just recraft it.

i don't think he would still be running a 28 pointer if he got bags full of larges

[Consumer]

Stats

Str 20
Dex 15
Con 16
Int 6
Wis 8
Cha 6



1. (Ftr) Weapon Focus: Slashing, Power Attack
2.( Ftr) Stunning Blow
3. (Ftr) Two Weapon Fighting
4.( Ftr) Weapon Specialization
5.( Ftr)
6. (Ftr) Toughness, Khopesh/DA
7. (Ftr)
8. (Ftr)Improved Crit
9. (Ftr) Quickdraw
10. (Ftr) Improved 2WF [Haste Boost IV]
11. (Ftr)
12.(Ftr) Greater Weapon Specialization, Greater 2 Weapon Fighting [Kensai II]
13.( Brb)
14.( Brb)
15.( Brb) OTWF or other
16. (Brb)
17. (Rog)
18. (Rog) Cleave
19. (Brb)
20. (Brb)




Barbarian
PA II (3)
Extend Rage I (1)
Extra Rage II (3)
Sprint Boost I (1)
Damage Boost II(3)
Frenzied Beserker I (4)
Power Rage II (3)
Hardy Rage I (1)

Fighter
Haste Boost IV (10)
Crit Accuracy II (3)
Attack boost II (3)
Kensai II (6)
Khopesh Mastery I (1)
Kensai Signature weapon II (2)
Extra Action Boost I (2)
Strength II (6)
Stunning Blow III (6)
Intim I (1)

Rogue
Sneak attack damage (I)

HO
PA III (6)
Extra action boost III (6)
Str II (6)


Took me about 2 minutes to take the Blizt build and make it a 34 pt HO. HO are superior to Dwarf for any melee build. If you don't like Nick's level split swap it around.

[Quikster]

i don't think he would still be running a 28 pointer if he got bags full of larges

Likely not. However its possible (ignoring forum join date) that this was an older alt he hadnt gotten around to tr'ing yet.

Either way, now hes got some other views to consider.

[Irask]

Don't judge a book by it's cover, I might be a 28, but now I'm premium and have more than enough larges to make 7 gs tier 3 weapons but why should I need to recraft maybe I'll try this build as half Orc and if I don't like it then I'll just TR into a dwarf again 36 pt no biggie.

[Quikster]

Don't judge a book by it's cover, I might be a 28, but now I'm premium and have more than enough larges to make 7 gs tier 3 weapons but why should I need to recraft maybe I'll try this build as half Orc and if I don't like it then I'll just TR into a dwarf again 36 pt no biggie.

You dont need to recraft. But going half orc over dwarf doesnt buy you as much if you use daxes thats all. Just something else to think about really.

[Quikster]

Took me about 2 minutes to take the Blizt build and make it a 34 pt HO. HO are superior to Dwarf for any melee build. If you don't like Nick's level split swap it around.

Only if you buy the "dps is all that matters" mentality. I dont.