Greater Dragonmark of Finding CHA Check

[LightBear]

02 = -1
10 = +0
18 = +1
26 = +2
34 = +3
42 = +4
50 = +5
58 = +6

Don't forget that you need to be able to spend those 3 feats. Imho only a Bard has room for it but if you think any class could pull it of then more power to you.

[Cairo]

Soooo...does that mean that people would make max CHA FvS? with a cha of
18 (human max)
5 (level up)
7 (epic cloak of the concord)
4 (enhancements FvS cha enhancements + human adaptability)
2 (capstone)
4 (tome)
1 (litany)
3 (exceptional)

for a grand total of 44 CHA

would that mean that you would accept this guy giving a +4 to chest level? (44 cha = 32/2= +16, 16/2= 4)

EDIT: looking back on it, they could also use a DDO store potion and yugo/house D potions to get a +5 chest level or higher

though this toon wouldn't be very flexable...you could still hold up a decent STR and and CON to be somewhat of a melee

Slight necro, but.. 16/2 = 8, not 4 :P

[Jamma]

If you could do it on Prey of the Hunter.....what would you get? Interesting.

A toothpick.

[Hendrik]

The release notes:

Greater Dragonmark of Finding
... there is a chance of failure based on your Charisma. (There is no special drawback on failure.) Some chests cannot be improved in this manner.

What is the CHA check?


Which chests cannot be improved?

It is your Level+CHA Modifier.

So far, there are very few that cannot be mojo'd.

Abbot is one. The small chest in EV6 is blocked but the Epic Raid is not. Same with EDQ.

I have mojo'd just about every Epic/Raid chest there is. What you can't mojo is a VERY small list. Revers Refuge is a good example, just cause it is Rune drops and cannot increase those.

What everyone fails to remember, CR of the Quest DOES NOT equal CR of Chest. Chest levels are hand designed and vary within the Quest.

Mojo does NOT buff named items to increase drops.

Been using this Mark since launch and love it. Works as designed and is fun to play with if you have the feats. I have no intention of ever dropping it.

[Garseya]

As it applies to half orc- its seems a waste of 3 feats to try this. As a human with a high cha, its another matter entirely. Finding the 3 feats is tricky- when you're really only after one.. I don't have the fancy NASA science, but i'll give ya a laymans version of my findings for the lvl 1.. dragonmark of finding

a batman build ftr/rge (thats gets a decents number of feats) low cha 8 starting with no umd lesser dragonmark will get ya a shocking grasp wand or cure light pot, but a umd variant focusing on intim as well with starting 15 cha gets your a wand of magic missile 5th and repair moderate or scorching ray wand...

Having it on a rouge totally negates the .518% chance of the level 2 knock featurebeing useful, but on a paly or fs human, this might come in handy with no rogue in a party and no arance with knock prepped..

getting even a +1 or +2 boost to shinies... (did yall say +4) pretty neat..

would that make a con +1 tome a con +2 or a minimum level 12 weapon a min lvl 16... Happy New Year!

That's a horrid a totally representation of get the picture... I studied several half orc variants, but the low starting

[HalfOrcBeautyQueen]

Been using this Mark since launch and love it. Works as designed and is fun to play with if you have the feats. I have no intention of ever dropping it.

Have you found anything spectacular?

[Emili]

As it applies to half orc- its seems a waste of 3 feats to try this. As a human with a high cha, its another matter entirely. Finding the 3 feats is tricky- when you're really only after one.. I don't have the fancy NASA science, but i'll give ya a laymans version of my findings for the lvl 1.. dragonmark of finding

a batman build ftr/rge (thats gets a decents number of feats) low cha 8 starting with no umd lesser dragonmark will get ya a shocking grasp wand or cure light pot, but a umd variant focusing on intim as well with starting 15 cha gets your a wand of magic missile 5th and repair moderate or scorching ray wand...

Having it on a rouge totally negates the .518% chance of the level 2 knock featurebeing useful, but on a paly or fs human, this might come in handy with no rogue in a party and no arance with knock prepped..

getting even a +1 or +2 boost to shinies... (did yall say +4) pretty neat..

would that make a con +1 tome a con +2 or a minimum level 12 weapon a min lvl 16... Happy New Year!That's a horrid a totally representation of get the picture... I studied several half orc variants, but the low starting

I thought this was Mod to DC for success on the chest/object not towards loot level...

Are just a few things in game worth while in end to me outside of named raid loot ... seals/shards/scrolls and occasional +4 tomes. So, it looks like only that last "tomes" does this have any effect on.

I do not run a haggle-bot bard as I prefer to play hard/elite high end and epics so my bards are a SS and a chanter maxed best they can to actually participate.

[chodelord]

double necro

is the mark effected by + char skills items or the command affix, or how about heroism or competence songs or boosts?

is it only your base char or does having a juicy + char cloak help? want to know!

[Geraldicus]

I finally figured this dragonmark is useless for Half-Orcs with their charisma deficit and so have been using it with humans instead. The least is useless or pretty much so but the lesser can be very useful, particularly if your charisma is high enough. I've been using this on a paladin so a fair number of my attempts with the greater dragonamark have been successful but even so I've yet to open a chest where the greater dragonmark actually triggered successfully and yielded something good. I think having a dragonmark which opened locks successfully pretty often would justify the facial deformity that goes along with the mark, but I have yet to see the greater dragonmark justify the cost of a feat (though I'm not quite ready to give up, haha).

[sephiroth1084]

As I see it, Cha is a measure of your personality, your force of will, your essence. More Cha means you're more outgoing, meaner, nicer, more suave, while less Cha means you're less outgoing and less able to express yourself. More is a better representation of you, while less is a worse one. A power that stems from your very being would make sense as being dependent upon Cha, as contrasted with wizards who attain spellcasting through knowledge and study, and clerics who do so through their openness to, or longing for, divine inspiration.

Did I waste 3 feats?

Honestly, I think everyone in this thread has.

[pelaaja]

Wasted feats or not, i could try to add the feat serie into a Cleric TRed Paladin/Monk or Bard. Looks good.

THough i don't have so high hopes. It's still only +1 to chests. +2 would make it better, or as said earlier, getting the lesser/greater via enchancements.

[Elucidus]

I wonder would this work on the chests in the pirate event?

Slight necro, but I am curious. Anyone tried it?

[maddong]

Did anyone do more extensive testing on success failure of this dragonmark? I was thinking the loot revamp might make this worthwhile again next update. From experience it seemed like it may be a DC 20 charisma mod check unaffected by chest level. Anyone else have any data?

[Enderoc]

2nd completionist reward...should be permanently dragonmarked...

[Xahtep]

Did anyone do more extensive testing on success failure of this dragonmark? I was thinking the loot revamp might make this worthwhile again next update. From experience it seemed like it may be a DC 20 charisma mod check unaffected by chest level. Anyone else have any data?

And people say no one plays pale masters anymore