Conc Opp: What gear slot?

[WhiskeyWarrior]

I'm getting close to the point where I am able to craft my first (and probably only) GS item from the Shroud.

I am planning on crafting a Concordant Opposition item, but I'm having trouble figuring out which slot to put it in.


The choice is out of Goggles and Boots (other slots are reserved for typical raid arcane gear). At the moment im using Spectacles of the Spirit Sight for +1 to necro & enchant DC's, as these are the most common schools of spells I use. Boots are just trash FF ones.

I know goggles are a fairly common GS item to make for arcanes, but I was wondering if it would be worth keeping the Specs of SS until I can craft them up to epic (still a while away), and making Conc Opp boots. AFAIK, the only real competition for the boots slot are the ToD boots (situational), or the Boots of the Innocent (for saves).

However, I realise a fair few "endgame" pieces of gear have focus/greater spell focus for these two spell school (already have a Dreamsplitter, but I <3 Wail), so making Conc Opp goggles might not be a bad idea since no other real competition for goggles slot.


Please no flaming/trolling about Conc Opp: yes I know the proc rate can be quite low (will get a Torc when I can), yes I know about 2x large ingredients required, yes I like farming Shroud to ransack.

[Jaid314]

my vote is for goggles. i'm not sure what you have in your cloak slot (which is usually the stormreaver's napkin for +1 to all DCs), but you can get greater necromancy focus in the sickle death's touch (must be unsuppressed).

better yet, you could try for the staff of the petitioner or the epic staff of inner sight (the closest thing to solid arguments for not dual-wielding as a caster that i am aware of).

mind you, even with the staff of the petitioner or epic staff of inner sight, i'm not sure i would use it all the time... it's great for some uses, but it's hard to argue with being able to use the skiver for greater arcane lore when you need to throw out mixed elemental damages. nor is it easy to argue against having something with major <element> lore in one hand and a spot for scrolls in the other. sometimes even a shield can be tempting (for hiding behind while you wait for your DoT spells to burn everything to the ground but you can't find a safe place or cover), or even an epic dynastic falcata (handy for dpsing held mobs, and who can complain about a +7 charisma item?) or an epic green blade (spell pen IX and greater arcane lore), epic winter's wrath, and probably something (or several somethings) else that i'm missing.

[TheDearLeader]

Vote = Goggles.

Greater Necromancy Focus on upgraded Death's Touch, Staff of the Petitioner, the new Robe from U7 to name a few. Spectacles of Spirit Sight are not so worth it.

If you're not wearing the boots in ToD, bad things will happen.

Have the Concordant Opposition Goggles on McPhail, and I don't think I've found a reason to take them off since I first equipped them.

[WhiskeyWarrior]

Sickle, greenblade, petitioner and napkin are on the "must get" list

Goggles it is, thanks for the responses!

EDIT: Will have the ToD boots for the raid of course heh

[omulrau]

If you can get the staff of the petitioner, Death's Touch is useless, the staff is awesome but reALY HARD TO GET.

[KingOfCheese]

I put Concordant Op on boots (as a hp item).

I've got Shroud SP item on goggles.

The only time the boots come off is for ToD part 3--and the loss of the concordant opp and hps has never been a problem.

[Carpone]

Googles and gloves are fine slots for Greensteel. Gloves of the Glacier aren't all that, especially in epics where you're crowd controlling way more than nuking.

[Trillea]

If you can get the staff of the petitioner, Death's Touch is useless, the staff is awesome but reALY HARD TO GET.

Not useless, My sorc uses both since her CHA item is a rapier. She uses the staff to save SP when buffing, and the rapier/touch when DCs matter.

[Goldeneye]

sp Conc Opp Goggles is my vote.
Reaver's napkin (Reaver's Fate) gives +1 to all DC's. Once you get that, there isn't much point to goggles of spectacle's sight

[elricken]

I am gonna have to say bracers, I went sp cha skills goggles and hp conc opp bracers. Seems to work really well seeing as there are no other bracers that are better imo for a caster.

[FunkyCold_Medina]

I debated this for a few days, trying to ensure the item is as future-proof as possible. In the end I crafted bracers, and plan to make gloves next, boots are an option too if you dont mind switching occasionally.
Using the epic Spectacles, and planning for an epic Envenomed cloak was a much better call for me (the seal and shard are dropping with an insanely high rate I have 2 sets off 2 runs of epic chrono). It doesnt take too long to get the spectacles imo, in fact I only made them after combining my epic gear I found I had all the bits all along on different alts. (I might have just been lucky)

[Carpone]

I debated this for a few days, trying to ensure the item is as future-proof as possible. In the end I crafted bracers, and plan to make gloves next, boots are an option too if you dont mind switching occasionally.
Using the epic Spectacles, and planning for an epic Envenomed cloak was a much better call for me (the seal and shard are dropping with an insanely high rate I have 2 sets off 2 runs of epic chrono). It doesnt take too long to get the spectacles imo, in fact I only made them after combining my epic gear I found I had all the bits all along on different alts. (I might have just been lucky)

Not a fan of those slot choices.

If you need Greater Necro/Enhancement, Staff of the Petitioner is the correct answer. It's a much better itemization and consolidation than epic Spectacles.

Epic Kundarak Warding Bracers are an optimal slot: +5 Resist, 6 CON and slotted with GFL. That leaves your belt slot open for the Rahkir's set bonus.

Too many good choices for boots already: Firestorm Greaves, Kundarak Delving Boots, and of course Boots of Anchoring for ToD raids.

If you're future proofing (good luck with that), then the optimal cloak choice is Stormreaver's Napkin. Once Gianthold goes epic, I'd be surprised not to see it have +2 mastery instead of +1. Even if you discount the Napkin entirely, Epic Silver Cloak of the Concord is a much better cloak choice. Personally, I chose Epic Ring of the Silver Concord instead because I use the Napkin for non-Necro/Enchantment focus.

[FunkyCold_Medina]

Well I guess it somewhat comes down to what gear you might already have. I had the goggles before I crafted my greensteel, and I dont run abbott ever. I just dont like the quest much.

Although the Napkin will probably become +2, 90% of the spells I cast at endgame play are covered by the goggles. When farming lower stuff necro spells are key, when farming or running epics enchantment is key.

The new cloak is just too good an item for my set-up: +5 resi, +7 con, +Greenslot. (Especially since I have now crafted Con-opp bracers that I dont fancy remaking)
However I can see it's interchangeable with the Bracers, being almost identical.

So in fact whether one crafts in the bracer or cloak slot, it doesn't make too much difference, the cloak being slightly better if it helps get one tier on your Con stat.

I'm not sure I agree that the Epic Silver Cloak is better than the Envenomed. The ring is better imo, as the difference in Cha skills isn't important for me and it's easy to obtain the other skills on swapable items.

[soulaeon]

Goggles is a good slot. Personally, I'd choose helmet because Minos is not the greatest in the world if you can get Fortification on another item like a belt; the 20 HP be accumulated in other ways if you gear carefully, otherwise it seems like as minor sacrifice.

[slimkj]

I went with goggles. The loss of SP if you are soloing and need to use your Tangleroot DW clickie can be a little annoying but it seems the least worst option.