link beaters plz

[stoolcannon]

On my rogue: Club of the Holy Flame

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hahaha

[stoolcannon]

I have become highly skeptical of the way people filter for idiots in shroud. For the longest time I linked my +3 Holy Burst of GEOB handwraps and got in no problem. I then decided one day to be lazy and just leave my T2 minII khopesh's on on just beat on him....... shocking, to say the least. Probably does about 3x the damage as my "acceptable" wraps. If I were to link those swords however, I would be auto-declined as a moron. (and have been)

Since then I have just assumed that anyone who requires me to link my beaters is doing it wrong. If I am in total panic mode and need a shroud fix, I now link my +1 holy Great Club with Force Ritual. (thank you aflac). I am sure that will pass with flying colors. after all....it is a beater......

If someone declined a person with dual Mintoos they need to go visit the youth in asia.

[LordPiglet]

I like to beat it with this...here is a good side view so you can see how big it is....great for beatin!!!

that's just wrong, on a great many levels

[voodoogroves]

The exact point I was going to make. Lets say its my 'A' toon. My A toon is still L13. So I have to level it up to Shroud level, and then, based on my very limited and confused understanding of how the crafting works in this game (which seems inexplicably complex), I have to run Shroud a few times to get my DR beater I'm allowed to, um... run Shroud? You what now? Baking powder?

Yeah but beaters for portals and bosses can be found earlier. Some work better than others, but now that I know what to look for (thanks to Bacab for the initial pointers) I'm finding them pretty easily.

They aren't always exactly what I want, but they work. They may not be critical on normal, but essential on hard/elite.

[stoolcannon]

I've never run shroud in anything but a pug and I've never had any issues except 1 time and even then first round was just slow, not failed.

I've also never once seen anyone kicked for not having a "beater" so perhaps this phenomenon has not spread to ghallanda.

[LordPiglet]

I think some people have just been burned by pugs where no one can by pass the dr. I don't see that lfm up on Sarlona, and frankly, I'm not likely to join one like that.

2 or 3 melee not being equiped with metalline or greater banes, not that big of an issue, 6 or 7 of them is an issue.

I don't know what happened last night, but we had bad lag in pt 4, lag spike, 4 deaths, 3 dc'd when we went to raise them. We ended up at 9 people, 1 cleric, 1 caster 7 dps. Part 5 was much faster then part 4, no pots used, no issues. This is something a standard group should be able to accomplish.

[DropList]

Pretty sure on normal a +3 gbane is just as good as a met of pg. If not just as good, just as good enough considering the price some think met of pg is worth.

I still think it falls slightly short , but no numbers worked Either way the icy on them are not needed .

[stoolcannon]

I think some people have just been burned by pugs where no one can by pass the dr. I don't see that lfm up on Sarlona, and frankly, I'm not likely to join one like that.

2 or 3 melee not being equiped with metalline or greater banes, not that big of an issue, 6 or 7 of them is an issue.

I don't know what happened last night, but we had bad lag in pt 4, lag spike, 4 deaths, 3 dc'd when we went to raise them. We ended up at 9 people, 1 cleric, 1 caster 7 dps. Part 5 was much faster then part 4, no pots used, no issues. This is something a standard group should be able to accomplish.

It almost takes effort to fail a shroud unless you're in a group nearly filled with first timers or you get terrible lag like above.

Shroud is easier than tempest's spine (at level) imo.

[LordPiglet]

The shroud failures I've been in can be attributed to:

DPS without enough hit points
DPS without weapons that were capable of bypassing or overcoming dr

Divines attempting to mass heal without quicken (and wanting to only use mass heal).

and just plain bad play.

[Quikster]

I still think it falls slightly short , but no numbers worked Either way the icy on them are not needed .

+1 met of pg is

base +1 +1d6

+3 gbane is

base-15 +6 +3d6

so an avg roll on gbane is +18 so base +3. Looks like the same enough to me. I wouldnt deny anyone using these weapons (not that I deny people for shroud based on gear)

The Icyburst isnt a bad thing to put on it. Sure its not doing damage to harry, but meh why not.

Certainly not something id gloat about but it can get the job done for sure.

[BitkaCK2]

On my rogue: Club of the Holy Flame
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^This but for all characters.

[DropList]

+1 met of pg is

base +1 +1d6

+3 gbane is

base-15 +6 +3d6

so an avg roll on gbane is +18 so base +3. Looks like the same enough to me. I wouldnt deny anyone using these weapons (not that I deny people for shroud based on gear)

The Icyburst isnt a bad thing to put on it. Sure its not doing damage to harry, but meh why not.

Certainly not something id gloat about but it can get the job done for sure.

Yeah for sure. I 'm the same...I dont really care. Id rather someone have 500 hp than 300 with slightly better weps.

[aristarchus1000]

Yeah for sure. I 'm the same...I dont really care. Id rather someone have 500 hp than 300 with slightly better weps.

This is so true about hitpoints. Maybe I'll start groups that say, "please link your toughness, Con+6 and GFL (or better) items.

Naw, too long.

[Srozbun]

I've been grinding out some non-complete shrouds on my new barb, he's level 15. For some reason noone wants to take a level 15 barb into a shroud... 500 HP and a Harry beater isn't enough.

I suppose theres always room for that 250 HP Rogue without a beater though.

Reminds me of the ONLY toon I've ever declined from a raid. Was a shroud group, we were filling at a slow pace and a 13 barb/2 rogue applies from a guild I'd never heard of. I send him a tell

Me: got a DR breaker?
Him: I can do over 40 damage per swing on the portals and I just finished one but didn't complete

I think that's nice, gives no indication at all on what I just asked. For all I know you were carried to the end in a pocket. I probably would have accepted him even if he didn't have a DR breaker and had at least a decent weapon.

Me: I don't care about portals. Do you have sufficient HP? Heavy fort? Decent weapons?
Him: No response for about 10 min.

Luckily we filled a few minutes after that. I don't mind taking lowbies provided they can show they know what they're doing. Or if they're from a guild I recognize.

[~jradnut]

I like pie.

Pie = goodness

I think I shall start linking some sort of pie from the barkeep.

I would love to link a pumpkin grenade.

[Yellfor]

I like to beat it with this...here is a good side view so you can see how big it is....great for beatin!!!

But but I thought WF were only MENTALLY male or female?



:TIDE Sorry I know I'll get in trouble for that comment BUT I had to!

[SINIBYTE]

Here's my beater:

[Aranticus]

If someone declined a person with dual Mintoos they need to go visit the youth in asia.

and you are implying?

[Krag]

If someone declined a person with dual Mintoos they need to go visit the youth in asia.

Read again the post you quoted. 'T2 minII' is not exactly Min II and can't bypass DR.

[stoolcannon]

Read again the post you quoted. 'T2 minII' is not exactly Min II and can't bypass DR.

I didn't see the T2 part. Guess it depends on the class. I use my T2 GA but then again I'm still doing around 70 or so per swing so it's all good.