12 ranger 6 fighter is ok. but what other two levels any different idea

[gorgorothsixsixsix]

obviously for tempest 2, kensei 1.

2 rogue levels comes to mind but attack rating drops.

is a 1 cleric level for more sp, bless and divine favor a good idea? (also divine vitality and if you are using longswords plus 1 from sovereign host too) i don't know the duration of bless and divine favor though.

or a wizard level for extra feat, possibly empower healing? detect secret doors, jump, masters touch to use other exotic weps you might loot randomly but can't use normally?

[ehcsztein]

I did 12 ranger / 8 fighter.

The extra 2 levels of fighter give you another feat and access to some decent enhancements (haste III / toughness III / Weapon Specialization I / Flanking II.)

Seemed to offer the best utility for those last 2 levels.

[78mackson]

The only reason to build 12 ranger in the first place is to get quicken + maximize. If you don't plan to pick that up then other splits might be for you.

Barb(why not give WF a try), monk(AC for norm play), rogue(1d6+3, open locks) would be good choices for those extra lvls, in that order.

[gorgorothsixsixsix]

can't be barb or anything cause i love my chaosgarde and i'm lawful good.

i really more feel like getting 1 cleric level and the question in my mind if those bless and divine favor spell duration too low?

then i'll just go with ranger or fighter i guess.

oh 1 more thing; i want to use power attack when i get that kensei. so attack rating is very important and i just think if bless or divine favor has long duration i can spend a lvl for extra sp.

[QuantumFX]

1 more level of fighter and a level of monk.

7 Fighter gets you Fighter Haste III, Strategy III, Toughness III
1 Monk gets you the whole wis bonus to ac thing. Extra feat is a wash with what fighter 8 gets you.

[cyberglammie]

One been looking into my final build and was stuck with the 2 splash lvls problem .... then my friend explained link .. evasion.. an 2 class feats inc toughness and diehard .. just my 2 cp worth

[jmonty]

The only reason to build 12 ranger in the first place is to get quicken + maximize.

lol wut

[kernal42]

I'm looking at 12 ranger/7 fighter/1 rogue.
The second level of rogue wouldn't add anything, while fighter7 unlocks some excellent enhancements. Rogue gives nice sneak attack and unlocks UMD.

Cheers,
Kernal

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

The only reason to build 12 ranger in the first place is to get quicken + maximize. If you don't plan to pick that up then other splits might be for you.

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what what what????????????????

[Dragavon]

can't be barb or anything cause i love my chaosgarde and i'm lawful good.

Chaosgarde aint that hot when you been at lvl 20 for a while. I would not plan to use that forever

[Razcar]

or a wizard level for extra feat, possibly empower healing? detect secret doors, jump, masters touch to use other exotic weps you might loot randomly but can't use normally?

Master's Touch only gives proficiency to Martial weapons.

[gorgorothsixsixsix]

****... many wise arse comments but no1 wise enough to tell me what's the freaking duration of bless and divine favor.

12 ranger, 1 cleric lvl that is; 13 caster levels? or not?

[CrimsonEagle]

****... many wise arse comments but no1 wise enough to tell me what's the freaking duration of bless and divine favor.

12 ranger, 1 cleric lvl that is; 13 caster levels? or not?

You will be casting lvl 1 cleric spells as a level 1 cleric, not a lvl 13 caster.

Your bless will be one min I believe, (un extended.) And off the top of my head, I think DF will be 30 seconds un extended, but dont quote me on that.

[gorgorothsixsixsix]

so when it says "caster levels" in spell descriptions and stuff, they just don't mean rangers eh? who can %100 approve this? cuz like ranger is divine caster by description if i'm not uber fail.

[78mackson]

lol wut

what what what????????????????

12 ranger/x/x isnt an especially strong build unless you plan to build for insta-heals. Other builds are stronger/have considerably more potential in every aspect then the above build (To-hit, dmg, feats, hp etc..)

oh.. I just repeated myself

[Razcar]

so when it says "caster levels" in spell descriptions and stuff, they just don't mean rangers eh? who can %100 approve this? cuz like ranger is divine caster by description if i'm not uber fail.

Each casting class you take will get a spell list tab. The spells you memorize/choose for each spell casting class will be cast with the amount of levels you have in that class. It doesn't matter where the spells come from, divine or arcane - there's no overlapping of caster levels from one class to another. So if you took 1 level of cleric on your 12 level ranger, you could have two Cure Light Wound spells memorized - one would be cast with 1 level of cleric, the other one with 12 levels of ranger.

[jmonty]

12 ranger/x/x isnt an especially strong build unless you plan to build for insta-heals. Other builds are stronger/have considerably more potential in every aspect then the above build (To-hit, dmg, feats, hp etc..)

oh.. I just repeated myself

lol

me too

[Arysta]

My main is a 12 Ranger, 6 Fighter, 1 Rogue.. I was going to make her last lvl Rogue, but now I just might go with Fighter..

Anyhow, another of my chars is (or is going to be, she's only 17 atm) 18 Ranger (tempest III), 2 Fighter for added toughness and feats. That said, she was a ranger/cleric mix, but I respec'd her.. Those 1 or 2 levls of cleric are a waste as you get cure spells and such with higher ranger levels, and also the ability to use wands for spells you don't have. At higher levels DV1 isn't going to give much; I save pots and give those to healers when they really need them, and if you have a full cleric they can dv the caster if necessary. If you really want bless, a wand comes in handy; probly over 1/2 my inventory is various wands, pots, and scrolls for that reason.

[jmonty]

My main is a 12 Ranger, 6 Fighter, 1 Rogue.. I was going to make her last lvl Rogue, but now I just might go with Fighter..

i'm tr'ing into a 12 ranger/7 rogue/1 fighter which just hit 14. it might not be the greatest dps but it is very versatile and solo friendly

[Arysta]

Just out of curiosity, why 7 rogue? (I plan on TRing her in the future, and will probly stick to the same build, with maybe monk instead of fighter.. not sure yet, though).