12 ranger 6 fighter is ok. but what other two levels any different idea

[jmonty]

Just out of curiosity, why 7 rogue? (I plan on TRing her in the future, and will probly stick to the same build, with maybe monk instead of fighter.. not sure yet, though).

that gives one more d6 of sneak attack. another level of fighter might be worth it but i fit in all the feats i wanted with that split.

[ChaosEmperorDragon]

12 ranger/x/x isnt an especially strong build unless you plan to build for insta-heals. Other builds are stronger/have considerably more potential in every aspect then the above build (To-hit, dmg, feats, hp etc..)

oh.. I just repeated myself

Well the hard things to get away from regarding ranger12/x/x are the ability to keep DEX down to 13 when dual-wielding because of the free greater two-weapon fighting feat and the Evasion ability rangers are granted at level nine, which is very attractive if avoiding a splash of rogue or monk in order to keep BAB 20.

[Cloista]

I went 12 Ranger/7 Fighter/ 1 Rogue personally. I wanted Fighter Toughness/Haste Boost III and UMD, and trap skills.

[LordPiglet]

12 ranger/x/x isnt an especially strong build unless you plan to build for insta-heals. Other builds are stronger/have considerably more potential in every aspect then the above build (To-hit, dmg, feats, hp etc..)

oh.. I just repeated myself

You build ranger 12 for tempest II as that is currently the only way to get 100% off hand proc.

It also provides plenty of self buffs, such as rams might, barkskin and elemental resistances.

13/7 is another option since 13 ranger opens Favored Enemy Damage IV and Favored Enemy Defense III

[78mackson]

You build ranger 12 for tempest II as that is currently the only way to get 100% off hand proc.

It also provides plenty of self buffs, such as rams might, barkskin and elemental resistances.

13/7 is another option since 13 ranger opens Favored Enemy Damage IV and Favored Enemy Defense III

The only problem is.. even when u have rams running and is fighting your favoured enemies your still doing less output then a similar split with evasion. Being able to self resist(without items) is nice but to be able to throw a 200hp heal in 0.3s is king.

ChaosEmperorDragon -> low dex? Yes, thats uber with evasion.

[justagame]

I recently finished levelling a 15 ranger / 4 fighter / 1 rogue

I wanted tempest II for the 100% offhand proc. I did the 3 extra levels of Ranger not only for the +2 / additional favored enemy, but also for FOM. Fighter 4 gives 3 extra feats, and opens up haste II / toughness II / strategy II -- and if you're not going kensai II, I only see a slight benefit in kensai I given the pre-reqs.

I like the build so far, but haven't played it enough at cap to come to a verdict on it.

[voxson5]

12 ranger/x/x isnt an especially strong build unless you plan to build for insta-heals. Other builds are stronger/have considerably more potential in every aspect then the above build (To-hit, dmg, feats, hp etc..)

Just wanted to ask on this, i'm currently levelling a WF ranger 12/barb 6/fighter 2 (currently 8/2/2) and he's pretty brutal, with nice hp's, good saves...

I read up on "The Monster" & "Egomaniac" builds & they seemed like really really good burst DPS toons, with proven statistics. My build was more about sustained DPS (Khopesh,tempest 2 (100% off hand proc), FB 1, max str & 13 dex for dodge)

What are the main limitations?
From my experience playing Brotix, its only the fact he's wf (divine healing) & doesn't yet have evasion (next level)

Not to derail the thread away, but i'ld just like some input - it may also be relivant to the OP

Cheers