put epic mode on anything but Devil Assault

[IAmDesolator3]

oh yeah well on February 30th I did so good, I didn't even solo it. I zeroed it! I wasn't even there. I just summoned my hezrou and left. It was so easy on elite, it basically beat itself. I didn't even have to be there. Oh and I'm a lvl 1 cleric lol.

[Jiipster]

Gonna start recording now. I'll have to do this on Lamannia, though, since I don't own the pack on Live, and it's possible (though unlikely) that they've nerfed it for U7.

Edit: in fact, this will make it harder for me, since I won't have access to my Guild Ship and all the buffs on it, so I'll be down some SP, 3 to hit and damage, and 10% heal amp.

[sephiroth1084]

Wow. WOW! You have no idea how this quest works or how epic works. What's the DC on web? Exhaustion would work but is a ton of SP. Blade barriers guarantees your cleric will run out of SP. Symbol of stunning would never hit on epic. Charms don't last enough enough on epic and most of the monsters on elite are immune. Also they all are either immune to stoning or their fort saves are too high on elite let alone epic.

I don't know how epic works? By what logic do you make that ridiculous assumption? Have you run epics with a decent caster?

Symbol of Stunning lands frequently in epics. Personally, I almost never use it because I use Mass Hold Monster and dancing ball, which are much better and land all the time. Flesh to Stone works well vs. casters in epics, though sometimes needs an Enervation/Energy Drain first. I'm lacking some DC boosts for my wizard, but my guild routinely stones and holds stuff with no problem whatsoever, even in the real epics (desert).

Web works on everything (or almost). Charms last long enough for them to be a reasonable means of crowd control if you're using mass versions.

As for my DC, I've got 36 with Web, 38 with enchantments and 37 with necro. Even in Amrath those work pretty well, except the necro DCs, but that's because everything in Amrath has +4 to all their saves.

You don't even know if they are immune to stoning, so how much do you know about questing in general? What's the DC your caster was throwing around in there?

[shagath]

I've done this on elite as a lvl20 sorc with my friend lvl19 paladin(with no named raid gear, solo player). First run we failed but second was a success. It's challenging but not too hard.

I really don't see point in not having this in epic difficulty. You can choose to do it, or choose not to.

[Jiipster]

It seems I underestimated the disc space video recording takes up, so it crapped out on me halfway through. I took some screenshots though, although you don't explicitly see the difficulty on them. However, the fact that I'm getting near-full XP as a level 20 should be proof enough that it was on elite.


After the first wave.



After the third wave. The second wave was, in my opinion, the most annoying one, due to all the freaking Bezekiras. Trips!


Endboss time. What a pushover. The first boss (fire elemental) gave me more trouble, but that was mostly because he kept running away from me...


Completion. Had that boss been a bit luckier with his Displacement-rolls, it might've been a bit more intresting... I was using Bladesworn, and as such couldn't heal myself Dude hits pretty hard, though... I'd say he's about as hard as Gula in Sins of Attrition on Hard.

However, you asked for video proof, and you'll get it tomorrow. It's too late here for me to run it again (and, to be honest, the quest isn't the most exciting one in the game, and I don't feel like running it back to back).

[k0ukla]

Does anyone know what they mean by Update 7 will add epic mode to Devil Assault? Cuz it either means epic on the new lvl 6 raid that's going to be added to it, epic on devil assault itself, or both.

I just got together my ultra hardcore all lvl 20 super pro group who breeze through epic quests like a cakewalk. What quest could possibly merit a gather like that? Devil assault on elite. ELITE!!!! lol

/snip

Did this on my l20 cleric with a l20 fvs and a l11 rgr lol (both guildies, one in for favor only obviously)

Had a guildie try and solo it on epic only know of one attempt they made and they got pretty far before they died

[rest]

You're not that much of a 'super pro group' if you got your ass handed to you by that quest. Duo'd it with a buddy of mine with a drow sorc (me) and a wf ranger (him).

At least man up and admit you negged me for this post, anonymous coward.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Uhmmm....

Some of us did Devil Assault on Elite was the cap was 16.

[sirgog]

Uhmmm....

Some of us did Devil Assault on Elite was the cap was 16.

Some soloed it at 16 too.

I tried, but never quite got there. The Clr14/Mnk2 builds with high or extreme AC did the best in there solo.

[CaptainCameo]

two words:


Epic Pit.




I'd sooner gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon and eat them without ketchup.

Epic



Wait for it









Crucible

[Crann]

Rest, +1 to balance out whoever neg repped you...dead on assessment of the OP.

Some people can't look past themselves to see that there are some pretty good players out there.

It takes alot more than just being level 18 to run level 18 quests....tactics and preparedness are everything sometimes. Especially when you don't have skilled players pulling you through quests/raids.

My nomination for the next epic is a toss up between Epic Proof is in the Poison, and Epic Freshen the Air. Trog Shamans you can't reach on a melee with insane saves and 1,000's of hp.

[donfilibuster]

Takes a few minutes to give everyone a tour of the pit before going to the first task.
In the end there's only up-down on two sides. Shouldn't take longer than all the time lost by getting lost.

And speaking of epic, wut happened to epic Tor? (after that time it went on lammania and removed)

[CaptainCameo]

I wouldn't mind the Epic Misery's peak if you were the ones distracting the dragon. That would be interesting to say the least.

[Bacab]

I soloed elite for XP at level 18 on my TR'ed FvS. Had to use two mana potions, so didn't repeat it.

None of the mobs in there on elite can do much damage to a character that's almost always moving, and that only attacks in melee when not surrounded.


As for Epic - a guildie did it on the test server in a full group and said it's a real challenge. They did beat it second try in a PUG, but using an amount of mana pots that is not sustainable. But, Shroud used to require lots of resources too (in the first month), VOD (for the first three months) and even Reaver did in the first week.


We'll figure out how to beat it *without* brute forcing it in time.

Ditto...

If you have a Torc and Concord opp and Blade Barrier...this quest is long...but trivial.

To the OP...does your "Uber Group" flag for ToD on Casual?

[donfilibuster]

I wouldn't mind the Epic Misery's peak if you were the ones distracting the dragon. That would be interesting to say the least.

Not to forget you can actually meet that dragon by level 14-16.
And the mindflayer feels squishy, but we never fully see what goes in the chase so maybe it would be interesting indeed.

[ulticleo]

No and there is absolutely no way in hell anyone of any class can beat it on elite solo with no SP pots or exploits.

Are you TRYING to sound like a 10 year old?
people are telling you they soloed, duoed, whatever, and you response is no? there is the post with all the screen shots, and your response is no? are you here to learn, whine, or just prove to world you are right no matter how wrong you are?
I haven't done the dungeon (I am p2p, and don't own the "pack"). I've soloed sins on normal and hard on my monk countless times. I am not an elite player, but i have a short list of accomplishments I am proud of. I've seen FvS solo sins on elite, I've seen a tank solo sins on elite. I've seen duo and even solo shrouds. I've seen solo VoDs. I've seen crucible soloed at level 9, and I've seen epic quests soloed with little to no resource use. There are players out there geared and skilled beyond anything your May10 ass can imagine. I believe anyone here who says they soloed DA elite.

My first time through the depth series took us almost two hours. does that mean it's a hard quest? my first time in crucible took me 2 hours. my first shroud we wiped. Just because you went into a quest on elite ONCE and got your "super pro" (aka can't complete DA elite) ass handed to you, DOES NOT mean it's an unbeatable quest. it doesn't even mean it's a tough quest. all it means is that you didn't use the right strategy, teamwork, foreknowledge of the quest to handle it correctly.

I can keep going, but what's the point? you are just going to say no.

[sephiroth1084]

Are you TRYING to sound like a 10 year old?
people are telling you they soloed, duoed, whatever, and you response is no? there is the post with all the screen shots, and your response is no? are you here to learn, whine, or just prove to world you are right no matter how wrong you are?
I haven't done the dungeon (I am p2p, and don't own the "pack"). I've soloed sins on normal and hard on my monk countless times. I am not an elite player, but i have a short list of accomplishments I am proud of. I've seen FvS solo sins on elite, I've seen a tank solo sins on elite. I've seen duo and even solo shrouds. I've seen solo VoDs. I've seen crucible soloed at level 9, and I've seen epic quests soloed with little to no resource use. There are players out there geared and skilled beyond anything your May10 ass can imagine. I believe anyone here who says they soloed DA elite.

My first time through the depth series took us almost two hours. does that mean it's a hard quest? my first time in crucible took me 2 hours. my first shroud we wiped. Just because you went into a quest on elite ONCE and got your "super pro" (aka can't complete DA elite) ass handed to you, DOES NOT mean it's an unbeatable quest. it doesn't even mean it's a tough quest. all it means is that you didn't use the right strategy, teamwork, foreknowledge of the quest to handle it correctly.

I can keep going, but what's the point? you are just going to say no.

Preach it brotha!

[xTethx]

Epic



Wait for it









Crucible

And why would this be a challenge? Crucible is hands down the easiest quest in GH, maybe not the quickest, but def the easiest.

[donfilibuster]

Crucible is a maze, lots of people don't like mazes.
At least u don't have to go jumping, since lots of people don't like that too.
There's double danger places like cc or the pit, which annoy both those who get lost easily and those who can't jump well.
Otherwise all those so called most-hated quests aren't that hard.

[Wrendd]

Are you TRYING to sound like a 10 year old?
people are telling you they soloed, duoed, whatever, and you response is no? there is the post with all the screen shots, and your response is no? are you here to learn, whine, or just prove to world you are right no matter how wrong you are?
I haven't done the dungeon (I am p2p, and don't own the "pack"). I've soloed sins on normal and hard on my monk countless times. I am not an elite player, but i have a short list of accomplishments I am proud of. I've seen FvS solo sins on elite, I've seen a tank solo sins on elite. I've seen duo and even solo shrouds. I've seen solo VoDs. I've seen crucible soloed at level 9, and I've seen epic quests soloed with little to no resource use. There are players out there geared and skilled beyond anything your May10 ass can imagine. I believe anyone here who says they soloed DA elite.

My first time through the depth series took us almost two hours. does that mean it's a hard quest? my first time in crucible took me 2 hours. my first shroud we wiped. Just because you went into a quest on elite ONCE and got your "super pro" (aka can't complete DA elite) ass handed to you, DOES NOT mean it's an unbeatable quest. it doesn't even mean it's a tough quest. all it means is that you didn't use the right strategy, teamwork, foreknowledge of the quest to handle it correctly.

I can keep going, but what's the point? you are just going to say no.

To be fair (it goes against the grain, but oh well) the OP has not posted since before the screenshots were posted. I agree with you though, he is in a state of denial about this. I remember feeling awe at some of the solo feats that I have heard about, but my response was never "That is impossible", I have a healthy respect for the people who play this game and I try very hard not to underestimate what people can achieve solo.

To finish: a quote from "Calvin and Hobbes" that I feel is appropriate....

Ms. Wormwood: Calvin! Pay attention! We’re studying GEOGRAPHY! Now what state do you live in?
Calvin: Denial.
Ms. Wormwood: [sighs] Well, I don’t suppose I can’t argue with that..