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    Default 7th Feat on Drow TWF-DoS

    With Update 7 I'm planning to start a Drow pure Pally DoS who relies on TWF with Rapiers if not wearing Shield, since I won't need Fighter for Intimidate anymore. The drawback is the serious lack of Feats.
    You get 7 Feats over the time, 6 of them I consider No-Brainers (correct me if I'm wrong), that'd be:
    1. Toghness
    2. TWF
    3. I-TWF
    4. G-TWF
    5. Tower Shield Prof.
    6. Imp. Critical Punct.

    Now I got 3 Choices for the 7th Feat:
    1. Power Attack - Great for Hate-Tanking as long as you hit them. Question is, can you have it on on epic?
    2. Extend - Pure Luxury but for Divine Favor it's great, but prbly. the worst choice.
    3. Force of Personality - Will boost my Will through the roof (think it's +8). But my saves are already high. Do I really need that one?

    Becoming Human might be an Idea, though for Real DPS I'd have to spend the extra Feat on Kopesh Prof. so no real gain there.

    Human with Scimitars should be inferior if I get that right, though it'D allow for PA and FoP.

    What are your thaughts?

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    You really should have combat expertise. 5 AC on demand is awesome. I recommend to drop tower shield for it. Then for the last feat it would come down to extend or power attack.
    -Extend will make your life a little easier because you won't have to buff as often (personally, I like making my life easier if I can).
    -Power attack will give you a stronger DPS option.

    Your saves will be high enough to not bother with FOP.
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    If you are starting one from scratch, then PA for sure
    You will spend considerable time grinding for gear and majority of your career you will be playing a DPS role
    So you’d want to make sure you don’t sacrifice too much DPS along the way

    Re Tower shield vs CE:
    Pally is quite stretched for build point as it
    I’d suggest start with 10 Int and tower shield, respec to CE after more grind
    IE +3 int tome and other raid loot to give you decent AC while TWF hate tanking
    Hopefullyby then , you should've gotten a epic VON shield so tower shield is no longer needed
    Vairs - clc 20 , Aairs - wiz 20, Xairs - Brb 20, Zairs - FvS20, Sairs - Pal18/Mk2, Jairs - Brd 20

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    Ohhh yeah Combat Expertise in Favor of Tower Shield is indeed the one to go. I knew I'd make some mistakes, so it's good to ask.
    The other one will prbly then be PA indeed.

    Thanks forthe help

    @Colin: Starting a Drow with Int below 10 strikes me to be difficult

    Edith asks: With The Epic VON-Shield you mean Epic Kundarak Warding Shield, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridcully1984 View Post
    Ohhh yeah Combat Expertise in Favor of Tower Shield is indeed the one to go. I knew I'd make some mistakes, so it's good to ask.
    The other one will prbly then be PA indeed.

    Thanks forthe help

    @Colin: Starting a Drow with Int below 10 strikes me to be difficult

    Edith asks: With The Epic VON-Shield you mean Epic Kundarak Warding Shield, don't you?

    What I meant is CE require 13 int
    Normally people start with 11 Int so they can qualify for CE after eating a +2 int tome
    What i'm suggesting is starting with 10 Int and grind your way to +3 int tome (raid loot) before going CE

    TWF Pally are tight enough on build point as is, so try to squeeze any point you can

    and yes RE the VON shield
    Vairs - clc 20 , Aairs - wiz 20, Xairs - Brb 20, Zairs - FvS20, Sairs - Pal18/Mk2, Jairs - Brd 20

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    I agree with Toughness, TWF x 3, Imp Crit Pierce, PA, and CE on a DoS tank. Although have you considered rogue 1 / paladin 18 / ftr 1? It would let you add a feat (prob. Extend), gain tower shields for free, and have max ranks of UMD. You sacrifice DPS by giving up the pally capstone, but it's not a bad tradeoff IMHO.

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    In that case with Fighter 1, I'd then go for Wiz 1 and Take Extend as his metamagic Feat. On top, of freeing another Feat (2nd Toghness or FoP), that'd give me some more spellpoints which might come in handy.
    Rogue would only make sense to me, when you go for 2 Levels to get Evasion since as a tank you won't sneak too often. The UMD Value should be high enough even without the Rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridcully1984 View Post
    In that case with Fighter 1, I'd then go for Wiz 1 and Take Extend as his metamagic Feat. On top, of freeing another Feat (2nd Toghness or FoP), that'd give me some more spellpoints which might come in handy.
    Rogue would only make sense to me, when you go for 2 Levels to get Evasion since as a tank you won't sneak too often. The UMD Value should be high enough even without the Rogue.
    Unbongwah is right...a 1 Fighter / 1 Rogue is a great splash for a DoS build. I've been playing a Paladin for a long time and my main is a DoS with this splash. The 1 Rogue level lets you get a really high UMD skill which is just awesome! I'm able to use heal scrolls no fail with no gear swaps (just a concentration check if I'm being attacked), thus in the middle of combat I have a really good chance of heal scrolling myself. It also lets you use scrolls of raise dead no fail for when all heck is going on though I almost always use resurrection scrolls now. Not to mention teleport, greater teleport, stoneskin, etc. Then there is the added bonus of lots more skill points when you take Rogue at level 1, and you can open locks too

    I highly recommend against taking a wizard level. This nets you almost nothing, and really a loss to your DPS (1 BAB), and HP for little gain. If you just want one more feat go for a 2nd Fighter level. A 2 Fighter splash is the other really good DoS splash. Just take extend on one of your normal level up feats and use the extra Fighter feat on a combat feat. If you order your feats right it doesn't matter that the extra feat is from the Fighter. If you want Wizard for more spell points, this is a waste. You can build a greensteel item that can add 300SP to your SP pool, which should give you plenty of spell points for buffs, divine sacrifice, etc.
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