i didnt notice any deterioration, pugs are what they are
maybe i was in your run with my bard mirn, was smooth this is true
but i noticed some leaders stress about picking the good characters and all
i agree that when you wipe a couple of times in a shroud pug then the next one you really matter about who you group
and i apologize for the couple of shroud runs i leaded the last week without voice chat and some few chat guidelines, oh well we succeded them both guys
you dont need hardcore characters for a shroud, just peeps who know what to do IF you want it fast & easy