Why do u Play a Cleric if u dont want to heal?

[stainer]

True. I can't believe how many spell points I have right now on that guy. I give a crazy number of buffs out in the beginning of a quest and it barely budges my blue bar. By the time I'm 14th level, I'll have more SP than I have on my capped Wizard with a shroud SP item. Of course, that's probably because my capped Wizard is kind of gimpy...

I cast a few buffs and I am clicking my archivists necklace for some mana.

[Schmoe]

This is why people yell hjeals at my lvl 8 cleric. You FvS's spoil them.

I have a fledgling wizard who's 9th level, and I'm slowly learning about spell point conservation. I can't even begin to imagine how painful it would be to level a cleric to 20th. I'll be quiet now.

[stainer]

i Have A Fledgling Wizard Who's 9th Level, And I'm Slowly Learning About Spell Point Conservation. I Can't Even Begin To Imagine How Painful It Would Be To Level A Cleric To 20th. I'll Be Quiet Now.

+1

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

Yay no.6 that has never run with me and has never saw me and says im a gimp

They don't need to run with you...you were on a ranger who couldn't stay alive in SC, and who aggro'd the cleric because he wouldn't top you off between fights, even though you should be doing the same with wands...(and you admitted this was because of laziness)

You are not playing your character to the best of his abilities...therefore, Gimp. Plus, you obviously need to learn aggro managent...never aggro the cleric...

[jkm]

This is why people yell hjeals at my lvl 8 cleric. You FvS's spoil them.

pfft, the one thing i miss on FvS's is divine healing. when someone was zerging beyond their ability to handle the zerg i'd toss it on them. talk about causing someone's head to explode - wait for the 2d3 to heal me to full? zerg more and run the risk of the cleric letting me die because i didn't wait for the DH icon to heal me up?

[Cholera]

A pure healer is a waste of a party spot. And you should be able to run that on elite in 30 minutes without a healer unless you are a party of gimps.

Which is a little like saying any pure, single function character is a waste of a slot. Pure magic mage, pure melee fighter or pure healing cleric? Of course, pretty much any quest may be completed without a pure function build (melee, magic, healing, trap busting or whathaveyou) but to suggest that one of them, healing or otherwise, is a waste – well, that’s effectively insisting on certain play / build styles.

That is to say, it’s hardly fair to suggest someone may be gimp for picking a functional style of play and being frustrated when, after advertising for a complementary style, they end up with something entirely different.

[vrobel]

Checked your myddo page and if your wizard is of any indication at all, yes you are very poorly geared, with all due respect.

XOXO
Val

yes i kno the wizzy is a gimp BUT its my first toon and everyone was a noob at the beginning AND im f2p :S

[Schmoe]

Which is a little like saying any pure, single function character is a waste of a slot. Pure magic mage, pure melee fighter or pure healing cleric? Of course, pretty much any quest may be completed without a pure function class (melee, magic, healing, trap busting or whathaveyou) but to suggest that one of them, healing or otherwise, is a waste – well, that’s effectively insisting on certain play / build styles.

That is to say, it’s hardly fair to suggest someone may be gimp for picking a functional style of play and being frustrated when, after advertising for a complementary style, they end up with something entirely different.

+1

Very well said, and I agree wholeheartedly.

[jkm]

I have a fledgling wizard who's 9th level, and I'm slowly learning about spell point conservation. I can't even begin to imagine how painful it would be to level a cleric to 20th. I'll be quiet now.

from 20 cleric to 20 FvS i gained 1200 spell points (40% or so) + unlimited cure light wounds. they really need to make another pass at cleric and maybe lower the spell point cost of the spontaneous heal spells.

[Raiderone]

Nevermind...

[Pallol_One-Eye]

back in game now to forget the bad things u said to me
feel free to send me say me ingame im a noob
Im Currently on Vrobel

I'll be on Wed night with one of my lowbie Sorcs, if you send me a tell, I'll set up a LFM on SC elite and I can show you the easy way of running, without multiple deaths or needing a Healbot cleric, sound like a deal?

All I ask is that you bring your wands and I'll bring mine. We will stay together as a group, use a little tactics and crowd control and this quest will be a breeze.

Sound like a plan?

[Vellrad]

from 20 cleric to 20 FvS i gained 1200 spell points (40% or so) + unlimited cure light wounds. they really need to make another pass at cleric and maybe lower the spell point cost of the spontaneous heal spells.

Maybe thats reason why FvS costs a lot of points.
And also you lost Radiant Servant and 2 spells know/level (I'm not sure if 2 or 1- can't remember if FvS got max 4 or 5 spells from each level)

[Otherworld]

yes i kno the wizzy is a gimp BUT its my first toon and everyone was a noob at the beginning AND im f2p :S

This is no excuse for being gimp.

[vrobel]

This is no excuse for being gimp.

but beeing a noob as u started playing and rolled a noob wizzy and were too lazy to reroll

[jkm]

Which is a little like saying any pure, single function character is a waste of a slot. Pure magic mage, pure melee fighter or pure healing cleric? Of course, pretty much any quest may be completed without a pure function build (melee, magic, healing, trap busting or whathaveyou) but to suggest that one of them, healing or otherwise, is a waste – well, that’s effectively insisting on certain play / build styles.

That is to say, it’s hardly fair to suggest someone may be gimp for picking a functional style of play and being frustrated when, after advertising for a complementary style, they end up with something entirely different.

i'd almost guarantee you that player attrition of "pure healer" builds is higher than any other playstyle. mainly because of the abuse that gets hurled their way when they fail in pugs.

i mean lets look at the OP. lets say he'd gotten a "pure healer" who then ran out of spell points at the 4th fight because no one had fire resist (too lazy to go get house p buffs). based on him bringing this to the forums, he probably said something to the battle cleric while in the group.

[Otherworld]

but beeing a noob as u started playing and rolled a noob wizzy and were too lazy to reroll

Ok, I'll cut you some slack. I don't know cuz I never rolled a gimp char.
The first few months, all my chars were forumbuilds. (I'm used to checking the forums while downloading the game.)

[jkm]

Maybe thats reason why FvS costs a lot of points.
And also you lost Radiant Servant and 2 spells know/level (I'm not sure if 2 or 1- can't remember if FvS got max 4 or 5 spells from each level)

i lost 2 spells total -> harm and mass cure moderate wounds, everything else i used as a cleric, i still have.

radiant servant isn't really an argument until the FvS prestige classes come out. at that point it will be like uh...

[Hendrik]

i'd almost guarantee you that player attrition of "pure healer" builds is higher than any other playstyle. mainly because of the abuse that gets hurled their way when they fail in pugs.

i mean lets look at the OP. lets say he'd gotten a "pure healer" who then ran out of spell points at the 4th fight because no one had fire resist (too lazy to go get house p buffs). based on him bringing this to the forums, he probably said something to the battle cleric while in the group.

Guessing the BC found out the same things about the OP we are.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

The OP stated that he wanted a Healing Cleric for an Elite Stormcleave in his LFM.
No Battleclerics. Even sent tells asking toon.

BattleCleric or Not, if you join an Elite LFM u need to help heal. If you have a problem
with it (then by all means don't join...OP waited 10 minutes).

I play BattleClerics & FVS's. Sometimes I understand the you know what I dont
want to heal U. But the LFM stated Healing Cleric. KNOW YOUR ROLE whether u like it or not. Good luck joining Raids with the I'm not gonna HEAL attitude!

We arent talking Casual or Normal. Dont know the levels of party nor care,
probably low level which is done with a good party...

No different than an LFM that STATES...BRING YOUR OWN HEALS....yes I hate those
LFMs.. not that I cannot heal myself. I always say then BRING YOUR OWN HASTE...GH,etc

I dont like Healer Only LFM's either but sometimes they are understandable!
This BattleCleric gives all other BattleClerics/FVS a bad rep!

Aye, but in this case, if you follow all of the OP's posts...

1) the guy said he was not a battlecleric and that he could heal

2) the OP takes 40 points of damage from trolls (out of 220 HP)

3) the OP yells at the cleric for not healing

4) the OP (and nobody else in the party, apparently) does not top himself off with wands or pots

5) The cleric decides not to heal, and 10 minutes or so later, the party wipes because they receive no heals from the cleric.

Now, granted, I think the cleric's nuts for joining that LFM in the beginning, but if I was that cleric, and I saw a fighter/ranger take less than 20% of his red bar in damage, I would not heal him at that point either...it would be a waste to top him off like that, and he absolutely should be popping pots or breaking out the wands between battles. If he then yells at me with the attitude the OP has shown so far, I also would stop healing him. Not sure what happened with the rest of the party, but I am guessing we are also not getting the whole of the story.

Sounds to me that the OP should not have been leading a SC elite in the first place.

[Raiderone]

Aye, but in this case, if you follow all of the OP's posts...

1) the guy said he was not a battlecleric and that he could heal

2) the OP takes 40 points of damage from trolls (out of 220 HP)

3) the OP yells at the cleric for not healing

4) the OP (and nobody else in the party, apparently) does not top himself off with wands or pots

5) The cleric decides not to heal, and 10 minutes or so later, the party wipes because they receive no heals from the cleric.

Now, granted, I think the cleric's nuts for joining that LFM in the beginning, but if I was that cleric, and I saw a fighter/ranger take less than 20% of his red bar in damage, I would not heal him at that point either...it would be a waste to top him off like that, and he absolutely should be popping pots or breaking out the wands between battles. If he then yells at me with the attitude the OP has shown so far, I also would stop healing him. Not sure what happened with the rest of the party, but I am guessing we are also not getting the whole of the story.

Sounds to me that the OP should not have been leading a SC elite in the first place.

Totally agree. You wanna do a ELite quest, you need to heal yourself after the fight.
Especially if running ELite SC with lower level toons.

Yah yelling at your Cleric is never good! I read most of OP's comments but did it quickly.