Why do u Play a Cleric if u dont want to heal?

[Llewndyn]

on a sidenote, how many sp are you supposed to have on lvl 8?

and if you need healing after 3 mins inquest and wipe after 15, youre in the wrong quest anyway. or pick a difficulty you can handle...

I started my first FVS and joined a stormcleave and felt woefully inadequate on HARD and i had 769 SP at level 7.... I know clerics can't have anywhere near that, not sure what all the fuss is about, and I have learned (from these sassy forums no less) that at some point the cleric has to realize it is a failed venture and healing would only encourage more terrible play, and that may have been why he stopped. If his bar was empty he may not have brought wands because he was usually in good groups and never needed them, so the thought didnt pass his mind.

I ran Necro 1 on hard last night and not ONE time did I even have to shrine, and we had only one DPS (we had 2 wizards, a rogue and a monk IIRC), they played smart, helped eachother. At one point I was actually a little sad because it was becoming more and more obvious my healing was not needed. THAT's the sign of a good party.

If you are only 3 minutes into Stormcleave and you are all sitting at 0 the cleric is not to blame.

[vrobel]

Why do I play a cleric if I don't want to heal: Blade barrier, soundburst, greater command, implosion, radiant servant, self-sufficiency, being the one that keeps competent people alive in a tight spot, and letting Darwin work on the rest so that I can show you how to complete a quest while you ride my backpack.

Seriously, I have roughly the same join date as the OP here, and like everyone else the first thing I thought was: your party was near wipe in 3 mins on stormcleave? I'm sorry, but you're doing it wrong, and its not entirely the cleric's fault here. Hell, if after 3 mins of fighting the whole party is near wipe I've done two things. 1) Identified for you the mistakes you're making 2) When you haven't listened to those suggestions mentally chosen to put you all in my backpack and stop throwing resources at resource sinks so that I can run the quest better.

You might be poorly geared, you might be charging head-long into multiple aggro points instead of picking fights your party can handle, you might have weak crowd control from melee and arcanes, you might be running in 5 different directions instead of ganking single mobs as a group, and you might have a cleric that has such low sp and skill that they can't fix all of these mistakes the party is making. Point is, I wasn't there and don't know the reason, but based on your description it sounds like you got a poor cleric and the cleric got a poor party and Darwin had a field day.

Lastly, it is really hard for you to fill a party because your LFM text reads as a warning, not an invitation to clerics.
Stormcleave Outpost On Elite Need a Pure Healer NO BATTLECLERICS - Signs this is not a group I will join - 1) Pure healer reads as: I can't be bothered to take care of myself through pots and smart gameplay, please do it for me. Unfortunately, while clerics can keep competent players alive, they can't keep Darwin Award candidates alive long and that text clues me in that this is probably the latter case. 2) NO BATTLECLERICS reads as - I think that writing in all caps gets my point across better, no forealzies I really am that immature. 3) You telled the cleric as he was joining making him pass an interview. Look, no incompetent cleric is going to admit to you that they are incompetent, because, like incompetent melees they are blissfully unaware of it. So, by your own actions you actually screened out all of the competent healers on the server and made it so that only the incompetent or sadist clerics would join your group.

Also, do you have something against favored souls? Was your LFM only looking for clerics?

No im not poorly geared and NO we did not failed adter 3mins READ the post at site 3 and no the lfm wa for fv and clr

[t0r012]

3) You telled the cleric as he was joining making him pass an interview. Look, no incompetent cleric is going to admit to you that they are incompetent, because, like incompetent melees they are blissfully unaware of it.

even beyond that , they were begging for a healer and when a healer request to join he gets the 3rd degree.
Sorry but that is no way to treat the guy you are obviously about to trust your life to. I might have been like "F-U pal , I just joined cause I saw you lfm sitting there for 40 min and took pity on you , and now your going to grill me?"

[t0r012]

Well i was out of healwands an i was too laz to send money from my main and buy new ones .But with wands and pots im sure i can solo it then And *sigh* youre a caster

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No im not poorly geared and NO we did not failed adter 3mins READ the post at site 3 and no the lfm wa for fv and clr

does not compute.

'I'm well geared' and 'don't have wands OR pots' just don't work , sorry.

Please , please do yourself a favor and stop , now. you are only making it worse.

[geoffhanna]

Next time il just take a friend and 2 pocket healers and run it

Boot and replace with a clickie. Works for me.

[Krag]

Lastly, it is really hard for you to fill a party because your LFM text reads as a warning, not an invitation to clerics.
Stormcleave Outpost On Elite Need a Pure Healer NO BATTLECLERICS - Signs this is not a group I will join - 1) Pure healer reads as: I can't be bothered to take care of myself through pots and smart gameplay, please do it for me. Unfortunately, while clerics can keep competent players alive, they can't keep Darwin Award candidates alive long and that text clues me in that this is probably the latter case. 2) NO BATTLECLERICS reads as - I think that writing in all caps gets my point across better, no forealzies I really am that immature. 3) You telled the cleric as he was joining making him pass an interview. Look, no incompetent cleric is going to admit to you that they are incompetent, because, like incompetent melees they are blissfully unaware of it. So, by your own actions you actually screened out all of the competent healers on the server and made it so that only the incompetent or sadist clerics would join your group.

Hehe.
'NO BATTLECLERICS' reads as - we just wiped and blamed the healer. Come and get the same treatment.

[flynnjsw]

Well i was out of healwands an i was too laz to send money from my main and buy new ones .But with wands and pots im sure i can solo it then And *sigh* youre a caster

Yet you blamed the cleric...thats impressive.

[Schmoe]

Hey everyone, I've got a great idea!

See that post by someone who asks that people read LFMs before they join and says how frustrating it is when people don't read the LFM? Let's all pile on and make fun of him, and make sure to be condescending toward his play style and character. What a great idea!

Not.

[EKKM]

I agree with what a lot of people are saying here but:

1- The OP said the cleric didn't heal at all. I don't care how you are specced as a cleric you should contribute to healing the party.
2- Point 1 is especially true if you join an LFM with only cleric/FvS in the lfm.
3- Posters dont seem to get that the poster is a new player with 2 characters and on his first melee. Yes he is a newbie at being a melee so he will require some sort of extra healing. I know the game is easier than it used to be but I'm pretty sure I couldn't solo SC elite on my second character.
4- Yes an experienced player can solo SC elite on a melee. However, a couple of crits (may not have 100% fort yet) or a spell incapacating you means you can die.

OP - You probably should have used better tactics. All of the mobs in the first half of that quest have poor will saves. Some commands, holds, dances, facinates etc go a lot further than a healbot in SC.

[Thelmallen]

TBH I was kinda pulling for you (c'mon everyone, the dude did say he wasn't a battle cleric and then proceeded to be a battle cleric. We've all gotten pi**ed when people lie about their build just to get into a party and it sucks) and then you said this...

And pls stop saying im a bad player or something like that i kno how to play and if u dont trust me pvp with me or run some quest with me!

I think you're gonna take a beating over that one.

[vrobel]

back in game now to forget the bad things u said to me
feel free to send me say me ingame im a noob
Im Currently on Vrobel

[rest]

pvp with me

Everything you've posted now makes perfect sense.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

We needed a heal coz we fighted trolls and everyone lost like 40 hp

Why, at level 8, does 40 damage wipe your party? With even squishy toons with no +HP items, that shouldn't be much more than half your HP...like someone said, a couple pots and you're back to full.

[PopeJual]

My low level Cleric has enough spell points to give appropriate buffs and to heal you during combat. My Cleric does NOT have enough spell points to top off the party in between fights. That's why you carry potions and cure wands.

If you want the Cleric's spell points to last until you actually reach the next shrine, then you heal yourself in between fights. If you're exceptionally poor, then you can do that with Cure Light Wounds potions. They're dirt cheap.

If you want the Cleric to heal you up in between each fight, then you're very likely to end up with a Cleric that has an empty blue bar when you get to the boss fight.
Do you really want the Cleric's blue bar to be empty when you get to the boss fight?


Now, on my FvS, I have approximately 18 gajillion spell points. I'm happy to top you off in between fights as long as you aren't sucking my spell points dry every time an enemy wanders near you.

[stainer]

Vrobell lvl 20 wizzy Vrobel lvl 6 ranger/4 fighter

With 6 levels of ranger you could wand heal for the party.

[vrobel]

Why, at level 8, does 40 damage wipe your party? With even squishy toons with no +HP items, that shouldn't be much more than half your HP...like someone said, a couple pots and you're back to full.

PLS read site 3 or 4 i dont remeber my max hp buffed is 220 and i said if i lose 40 hp im not near death

[valerieanne]

I soloed it on my caster on elite under 25mins. If you need a healbot to complete sc, yes something is wrong

In the defence of the poor OP(even though I disagree with him), you forgot to mention that you solo-ed it on your caster, who is on her 4th reincarnation, with uber gears that even I drool over... :-P So, no you don't count


~~~ XOXO ~~~
Earwen,Aerendil,Valerriel

[valerieanne]

No im not poorly geared

Checked your myddo page and if your wizard is of any indication at all, yes you are very poorly geared, with all due respect.

XOXO
Val

[stainer]

Now, on my FvS, I have approximately 18 gajillion spell points. I'm happy to top you off in between fights as long as you aren't sucking my spell points dry every time an enemy wanders near you.

This is why people yell hjeals at my lvl 8 cleric. You FvS's spoil them.

[PopeJual]

This is why people yell hjeals at my lvl 8 cleric. You FvS's spoil them.

True. I can't believe how many spell points I have right now on that guy. I give a crazy number of buffs out in the beginning of a quest and it barely budges my blue bar. By the time I'm 14th level, I'll have more SP than I have on my capped Wizard with a shroud SP item. Of course, that's probably because my capped Wizard is kind of gimpy...