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    Quote Originally Posted by picaisfun View Post
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    I must admit I don't quite get the same impression other users are getting from current h-elves.
    Elves from LOTRO gave me a much stronger "pretty-boy" vibe - and they looked finished and well polished.

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    As they are, h-elves just look raw to me. Unfinished.
    Sure, they look "un-manly" - but in the same way an inflatable doll would look.
    If they had "pretty boy" looks, there would be something pretty about them.



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    Sigh...
    What's weird about h-elves is, they don't even look like artists tried tweaking existing models - like they did with h-orcs.

    H-elves look more like an afterthought.
    Devs had a deadline to meet, PAX, they got into crunch mode, and somebody who didn't have the foggiest idea of what a h-elf was supposed to look like, drew the shortest straw.
    If anything, they look more like Tieflings, than h-elves.

    I don't really know if they should be delayed.
    But they sure could use some more artistic love...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entelech View Post
    Clearly, Half Elves were designed by the Marketing department, while Half Orcs were designed by the actual Devs.

    Think about it. Some marketing person is talking just to hear his own head rattle, and he says "Gee, Fernando, we're doing really well on the over-30 market, but what we really need is more market penetration in the fifteen-year-old girl demographic! We need an entire game race based off the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC!"

    Fernando says "Hmm...penetrating 15 year old girls you say? I like it! Make it happen!"
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entelech View Post
    Clearly, Half Elves were designed by the Marketing department, while Half Orcs were designed by the actual Devs.

    Think about it. Some marketing person is talking just to hear his own head rattle, and he says "Gee, Fernando, we're doing really well on the over-30 market, but what we really need is more market penetration in the fifteen-year-old girl demographic! We need an entire game race based off the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC!"

    Fernando says "Hmm...penetrating 15 year old girls you say? I like it! Make it happen!"
    eheh you just made my day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabore View Post
    H-elves look more like an afterthought.
    I don't really know if they should be delayed.
    But they sure could use some more artistic love...
    yea... i agree.

    I think half elves need to be delayed until a later date.
    Right now they look like ... nothing.
    Dont get me wrong, ill play one, but as it stands...
    this will be the first character i leave the helmet ON with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator_206 View Post
    will be the first character i leave the helmet ON with.
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    And we might actually have a use for those cosmetic-only skull helms...



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    I really dislike carping on devs' work - but I am afraid they got half elven appearance... well, not quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashurr View Post
    The odd thing is....this is what Half-Elves look like in the Eberron Handbook


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    After how he went on about them, and seeing how they deviate from the books.... methinks Fernando has something to tell us....
    I think that that guy plays guitar for Styx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator_206 View Post
    yea... i agree.

    I think half elves need to be delayed until a later date.
    Right now they look like ... nothing.
    Dont get me wrong, ill play one, but as it stands...
    this will be the first character i leave the helmet ON with.
    Maybe the DDO store will sell a cosmetic Paper Bag helm RR: HalfElf
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    To the OP, you might want to see this thread:

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=280615
    In case you didn't already notice, my posts that end with must NEVER EVER, under any circumstances, be taken seriously.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3012617

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    [QUOTE]
    Methinks they got their Anime looks - and their pirates... - wrong.
    They got Monkey D. Luffy when they were really after Captain Harlock.

    [CLOSEQUOTE]

    Hey, if Luffy looked like that, I wouldn't go near that series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabore View Post
    Methinks they got their Anime looks - and their pirates... - wrong.
    They got Monkey D. Luffy when they were really after Captain Harlock.



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    Just to stress how different our expectations - well, mine at least... - about half elves were:



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    I didn't see anybody post a picture of the new half-elves so I can see the creepiness. I had to do some searching and find one myself. Here you go:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Maybe it is just me, but I actually find the half-elf look really quite disturbing.

    They definitely have an "Uncanny Valley" thing going on, and they give me the creeps.
    They don't creep me out.

    But then, the whole "Uncanny Valley" effect does not seem to exist for me. I see absolutely nothing creepy or disquieting about Repliee Q2 or Roxxxy. Not that I find either of them particularly attractive, but neither do they give me any unspecified negative feelings. And I find many obviously CGI people, like characters in "Beowulf", very beautiful.
    "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

    "Of course it is. Are YOU going to question beholder's artistic sense?"

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    [QUOTE=hityawithastick;3347406]
    Hey, if Luffy looked like that, I wouldn't go near that series.
    To be fair, I like One Piece too.



    Just for the sake of comparison:




    Both anime, both stylised, yet radically different.
    And you have a point: if *all* characters consistently looked like Luffy, or Harlock, half elves wouldn't stand out.
    It's the dissonance that irks me a bit.





    Quote Originally Posted by Thelmallen View Post
    Guy on left: Tanis
    Guy on right: Lance Bass


    For some reason, when I see male half elves, I think of Cher.
    What's funny is, strictly speaking, I don't think they look effeminate.
    But I get a strong, facial surgery addict, vibe.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tholar View Post
    I didn't see anybody post a picture of the new half-elves so I can see the creepiness. I had to do some searching and find one myself. Here you go:
    Ok, I yelped out in surprise.
    Put me near that gent, and you'd think elves and dwarves *are* real, after all.



    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    They don't creep me out.
    But then, the whole "Uncanny Valley" effect does not seem to exist for me.
    I see your point.
    And some of the latest gynoid's pics don't look too uncanny either.
    It's something wrong with model proportions and facial/eye textures that gives half elves a strong artificial vibe.

    The earliest posts mentioned Odo from Star Trek.
    That's telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tholar View Post
    I didn't see anybody post a picture of the new half-elves so I can see the creepiness. I had to do some searching and find one myself. Here you go:

    why why .. why did you show me that T_T
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    While I do find the Halfelvs to be somewhat unfinished it seems to me to stem from that babysmooth skin with no flaws, blemishs, or wrinkles that plague the other races . That being said I'm gonna wear my helmet in town for sure or I should say hood since I'm almost always a trapmonkey. The Ranger dil works well with the rogue builds by the way. Damage is Signif increased with bows. So if you wanna stay in shadow and still do damage from a dist recomend Rogue Halfelvin ranger dilitante with the storm d mark. this build worked well for me. I know blah blah blah! And i hope to never ever see that picture again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elujin View Post
    why why .. why did you show me that T_T
    I must find that gent, and convince him to run a two body show.

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    I'll play the dwarf...

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    Found the Coming Half-Elf Dance Animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0
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    My reaction to most half-elves is to try and kill it with fire.

    Unfortunately, my eternal wands only have 50 charges, and don't work on party members.
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    Wait! Where are you going? Come back here and die for my fleeting tactical advantage!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    Found the Coming Half-Elf Dance Animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0
    I'd take that dance over the current ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tholar View Post
    i Didn't See Anybody Post A Picture Of The New Half-elves So I Can See The Creepiness. I Had To Do Some Searching And Find One Myself. Here You Go:

    Win! +1 To You


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