first time monk here

[bobbert22193]

So I am playing a monk for the first time and I am really enjoying it. However I have lots of questions. I have made it lvl 4 and am currently banking xp so I dontt screw up the build to much. A friend of mine recommended being a dark monk so I am trying that out proproblem is I don't really know what would/is a good build for a dark monk. Also is there any other way to use the monk attacks instead of clicking them individually every time such as maybe hotkeying them somehow cuz that would be nice




Kaleva of thelanis

[SINIBYTE]

So I am playing a monk for the first time and I am really enjoying it. However I have lots of questions. I have made it lvl 4 and am currently banking xp so I dontt screw up the build to much. A friend of mine recommended being a dark monk so I am trying that out proproblem is I don't really know what would/is a good build for a dark monk. Also is there any other way to use the monk attacks instead of clicking them individually every time such as maybe hotkeying them somehow cuz that would be nice

Kaleva of thelanis

Can you give us a little information about your current build? Race/Stats/etc

As for using some of the moves, check this thread here:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=263737

[bobbert22193]

Took standard 28 pt build on a halfling shintao monk.


Best I can do from car dealership, sorry.
Edit thanks for the link supper helpful and I only made it through the first page

[TPICKRELL]

Took standard 28 pt build on a halfling shintao monk.


Best I can do from car dealership, sorry.
Edit thanks for the link supper helpful and I only made it through the first page

If you mean you went the pre-built Shintao path, then please don't do that. The monk pre-built paths are not good.

Here are some useful links:

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Mobeius' guide: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=214991 -- good basic info, but a bit dated now. Mobieus has a bent towards light path, human dex/wis builds, so if you are going a different route you will have to combine this with info from other sources. But the basic information here is good and well worth a read.

Eurytos' new monk builds: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=242841 -- solid advice on how to allocate stats for different races. Good starting point for many builds.

The Rockan Robin Build and Background: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=242841 -- A bit dated as well, but a solid dex/wis halfling build. Might be too heavy on some aspects, but worth looking at.
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The Shintao Prestige Class as it exists right now is not very good. It's expensive and the return is negligible under the best of circumstances. That will change in the next few weeks when Update 7 moves from test to the live DDO servers. The new Shintao is very much improved. Note that is the Shintao Prestige class, not the Shintao Pre-Built path. There is nothing wrong with starting a Light Path monk now and heading towards the new Shintao prestige class. The update will be out before you get to the point where it matters.

[bobbert22193]

Stayed on the prebuilt path till lvl 2 then took fists of dominion at lvl 3 and can't remember what I did at lvl 4 if anything other than to boost my sex score by 1. Thanks for the links.

[TPICKRELL]

Stayed on the prebuilt path till lvl 2 then took fists of dominion at lvl 3 and can't remember what I did at lvl 4 if anything other than to boost my sex score by 1. Thanks for the links.

I'm not sure what that will do to your build. Shintao is a light path build, so it may not set you up well for a dark path monk... Not Sure.

But, you will need to post some more details before anyone can give you more than very general help...

1: Race -- Different races have different options and synergies, so your race is pretty important in where you monk will be likely to excel.
2: Goals -- Probably DPS since you went Dark, but confirmation would make it easier. Assuming DPS, with a 28pt build you have to make choices early on to determine which route you are going to take to better DPS later in the game. How important is AC relative to DPS for you? Note that AC at high levels only matters if you can get it pretty high, which takes very good gear. The other things you have to balance are your STR (Damage, to hit, weight carrying capacity) verus your Dex (AC, to hit if weapon finesse), WIS (AC, DC on stunning blow and other monk effects) and Con (Hit Points). With a 28 pt build you have to choose something to be really good at, and not try to be to much of a generalist.
3: Goals 2 -- Are you planning to run a lot at end game, or to level to 20 and then true reincarnate? Its a lot easier with a 28pt build to make a solid leveling toon, than it is to build a good leveler for end game. So I'd either plan on a quick TR at the end, or plan to Greater Reincarnate once you have 32pt build available. The extra 4 points will make a lot of different at high levels.
4: Stats -- I know you went Shintao pre-built for level 1, but they changed the pre-builts not long ago, so I have no idea how that allocated your stats. And your starting stats will go a long way towards determining what options are viable for you.

[bobbert22193]

I'm not sure what that will do to your build. Shintao is a light path build, so it may not set you up well for a dark path monk... Not Sure.

But, you will need to post some more details before anyone can give you more than very general help...

1: Race -- Different races have different options and synergies, so your race is pretty important in where you monk will be likely to excel.
2: Goals -- Probably DPS since you went Dark, but confirmation would make it easier. Assuming DPS, with a 28pt build you have to make choices early on to determine which route you are going to take to better DPS later in the game. How important is AC relative to DPS for you? Note that AC at high levels only matters if you can get it pretty high, which takes very good gear. The other things you have to balance are your STR (Damage, to hit, weight carrying capacity) verus your Dex (AC, to hit if weapon finesse), WIS (AC, DC on stunning blow and other monk effects) and Con (Hit Points). With a 28 pt build you have to choose something to be really good at, and not try to be to much of a generalist.
3: Goals 2 -- Are you planning to run a lot at end game, or to level to 20 and then true reincarnate? Its a lot easier with a 28pt build to make a solid leveling toon, than it is to build a good leveler for end game. So I'd either plan on a quick TR at the end, or plan to Greater Reincarnate once you have 32pt build available. The extra 4 points will make a lot of different at high levels.
4: Stats -- I know you went Shintao pre-built for level 1, but they changed the pre-builts not long ago, so I have no idea how that allocated your stats. And your starting stats will go a long way towards determining what options are viable for you.

Yes I would prefer tohave more DPS, I am with you on goal 2, hope this helps out for stats and what i got so far.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
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Level 4 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(4 Monk) 
Hit Points: 77
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 3\3
Fortitude: 7
Reflex: 9
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 4)
Strength             16                    16
Dexterity            16                    17
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 4)
Balance               7                    10
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         5                    10
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  3                     7
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  6                    11
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  3                     3
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Reflex) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Monk Concentration I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Static Charge

only thing is for some reason my actual DEX score is 19 instead of whats listed above.

[Crinos]

Yes I would prefer tohave more DPS, I am with you on goal 2, hope this helps out for stats and what i got so far.


only thing is for some reason my actual DEX score is 19 instead of whats listed above.

You are probably in wind stance. +2 dex, -2 con.

[bobbert22193]

You are probably in wind stance. +2 dex, -2 con.

In fire stance.

[AaronB]

Stayed on the prebuilt path till lvl 2 then took fists of dominion at lvl 3 and can't remember what I did at lvl 4 if anything other than to boost my sex score by 1. Thanks for the links.

Boosted your sex score? Does that extendz stuff actually work?

[Crinos]

In fire stance.

Maybe you missed my point.

I was suggesting that as you find your dex is 2 higher than you were expecting when you said

"only thing is for some reason my actual DEX score is 19 instead of whats listed above."

then maybe it's because you were in wind stance when you checked your dex as that gives a +2 bonus and you were expecting to have 17 dex (based on your post).

If you already got that and are saying that you have and extra 2 unexplained Dex when in fire stance, then I don't have anything else useful to add.

[bobbert22193]

Maybe you missed my point.

I was suggesting that as you find your dex is 2 higher than you were expecting when you said

"only thing is for some reason my actual DEX score is 19 instead of whats listed above."

then maybe it's because you were in wind stance when you checked your dex as that gives a +2 bonus and you were expecting to have 17 dex (based on your post).

If you already got that and are saying that you have and extra 2 unexplained Dex when in fire stance, then I don't have anything else useful to add.

aha, I did miss the point on that one, my sig explains why

checked it out though and in fire stance my DEX is 19 and if I go to wind stance it jumps up to 21.

So I am getting an extra 2 to my DEX score from somewhere and when I hover over the number it dosent show any bonuses, unless in wind stance and double checking my gear nothing to DEX at all.

[Gummi]

according to Tihocan under path flaws in this build http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...93#post2815593 the path is a 30pt build, which might explain the extra 2 dex?

that build does sound like one you might want to try out (that is a tihocan's suggestion on a fixed version of the ninja spy path) (got fixed build for about 75% of the paths (sadly only ninja spy for the monk))