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[Keepmypace]

My friend gave me this build, which is exactly the style of play I like. ( Im alredy on 6th with this )
But I'm not too sure about it. So, I need help to make sure and not fail again ( im alredy failed at two charcters 6th because bad builds). About the enhancements, I do not know. Only the requeriments for Tempest I and II Kensai, Drow spell resistance, elven enhancements resistance, trap, search, open locks and status boost. About the tomes, ill eat some +2 tome of supreme ability ( +2 to all status ) at 7th, but MAYBE just that. This build is supposed to use Mithral full plate. Sorry the bad English, but i hope u guys have understand me.



Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 25
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 15
Will: 6

Starting Ending
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 17 24
Dexterity 15 17
Constitution 10 12
Intelligence 16 18
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 10 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Ending
Base Skills Base Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 12
Bluff 0 1
Concentration 0 1
Diplomacy 4 5
Disable Device 7 26
Haggle 4 5
Heal 1 2
Hide 2 3
Intimidate 0 1
Jump 7 11
Listen -1 0
Move Silently 2 3
Open Lock 6 10
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 4
Search 7 26
Spot 3 22
Swim 3 7
Tumble 6 7
Use Magic Device 4 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Drow Spell Resistance
Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency:

Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency:

Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency:

Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency:

Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency


Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency

(ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)


Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil

Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon

Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency


Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency




Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing

Weapons


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency:

Khopesh


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting




Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization:

Slashing Weapons


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus:

Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing

Weapons


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon

Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+12)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion

[blitzschlag]

because of 10 con and 16 int i rate this build (on a scale of 1 to 10)






-1


some hints:
ranger tempest 1 is not worth splashing anymore. so it would be way better to be a 18 ftr/2 rog (although its hard to keep rogueskills up with ftrlevels).
drow does not have the best synergies with fighter class. a 28 point human/dwarf would be better suited imo.

good starting stats for a human twf fighter 28 points
16
15 (need +2 dex tome for imp/greater twf)
15
10
8
8

skills to intimi, balance (crossclass) and umd (crossclass). with the supreme tome you can put the extra skillpoint into jump (from lvl 8 onwards)

if you definately need trapskills we could work something out

12 ftr/7 rog/1 barb could be worth a try

[Bacab]

bad...needs more CON/HP

[Meetch1972]

I like the idea, but if you're building a character for melee combat, that 242 unbuffed hps should be closer to 342 at a minimum. I'm not saying that naked 342 is great, but at least you won't get one-shot killed by half the end game bruisers. There are plenty of threads with advice on doing this, but start with a minimum 6 point investment in constitution and follow up the toughness feat with racial/class toughness enhancements to get it to the right value.

Unfortunately, that simple shift of ability points can break a build idea.

Others will comment on the choice of skills/feats/enhancements far better than I can, so I'm just saying aim for reasonable HP viability on your melee character by increasing the hit points. I like the idea of not going cookie-cutter, especially if you're playing for yourself. Joining PUGs will at least come with minimum expectations like having enough hit points to survive the big hits, and if you don't survive, you 1) cannot hurt things and 2) waste a space in a fellow party member's backpack - and it will work against you.

[AyumiAmakusa]

0/10

[ilgriffo]

This build is supposed to use Mithral full plate.

2 Rogue

Constitution 10 12
Intelligence 16 18

Skills
Balance 6 12

Full Plate do not like Evasion and Viceversa.
2 rogue lvs for Evasion and skills points is nice but this kind of build will benefits of it just at lv cap. take it before cap and Reincarnate can be an option?
No one should start with 10 Con.
Inteligence 16 imho is a waste of points
Balance is a nice skills to max.

[Dragavon]

There is so much wrong here

As people have said, tempest I is no worthwhile anymore. Not saying taking 6 ranger levels is a bad thing, it gives you loads of nice free feats, and a 6 min Rams might is a very nice buff.

2 rogue levels give evasion, you plan to loose that by wearing medium armour. Bad idea, your AC will not be very high anyway, and loosing evasion really hurts you.

Oh, and get more HP

The idea is good, you and your friend simply does not know enough about the game to make it work

But you should get some pointers here to help you out. I am afraid though, that starting with 10 CON makes your current char fubar.

I dont think drow is a good choice for this type of character, a 32 point ooman would be much better imo. You say you will buy a tome from shop, buying 32 point chars makes sense too

[Keepmypace]

Oh ****.
Really, im unlucky. First, i made Paladin/Figther Dwarf. It failed because outdated build. ( Screw my guild fórum. )
Second, Monk. Its was not toooo bad, but the monk play boring me.
Now, i finally have Drow ( I like Drows and Dwarfs ) and my build fail AGAIN. Im REALLY dont wanna back to Korthos again, i cant handle it anymore. ARGH! That's it, i ill buy 32 pts character. can ANYONE PLEASE give some GOOD build for TWF combat? I really dont like light armor ( but i do like disarm traps trough )so, somenthing that can use heavy armor. Drow with kophesh's or Dwarf with dwarven axe. For good DPS working, maybe disarming traps and stuff.


PLEASE.

[blitzschlag]

Oh ****.
Really, im unlucky. First, i made Paladin/Figther Dwarf. It failed because outdated build. ( Screw my guild fórum. )
Second, Monk. Its was not toooo bad, but the monk play boring me.
Now, i finally have Drow ( I like Drows and Dwarfs ) and my build fail AGAIN. Im REALLY dont wanna back to Korthos again, i cant handle it anymore. ARGH! That's it, i ill buy 32 pts character. can ANYONE PLEASE give some GOOD build for TWF combat? I really dont like light armor ( but i do like disarm traps trough )so, somenthing that can use heavy armor. Drow with kophesh's or Dwarf with dwarven axe. For good DPS working, maybe disarming traps and stuff.


PLEASE.

if you wanna do traps and have evasion (actually quite useful) you have to give up the heavy/medium armors (mithral full plate).

i would recommend a dwarf/human fighter12/rogue7/whatever1 build ( i like 1 barb for sprintboost and some minor rages).

there is some good builds in the fighter forums. have a look there

[Jiirix]

You may think about reincarnation, only the true re. starts again at level 1, the other ones will save your XP.

[deathtouch]

First of all its good that you came to the forum and asked advice. Also you took it really well and actually listened to what people have to say instead of getting all upset and defensive.

I think a small problem is that you want a lot and only have 28 points to invest in it.

Have you tried making a Dwarven18 ranger / 2 fighter build, ok you won't be able to do traps, but its got pretty much everything else. Also Evasion is a pretty awesome thing to have as others have pointed out.

Good luck on your build no matter which path you decide to go down.

[Moltier]

Oh ****.
Really, im unlucky. First, i made Paladin/Figther Dwarf. It failed because outdated build. ( Screw my guild fórum. )
Second, Monk. Its was not toooo bad, but the monk play boring me.
Now, i finally have Drow ( I like Drows and Dwarfs ) and my build fail AGAIN. Im REALLY dont wanna back to Korthos again, i cant handle it anymore. ARGH! That's it, i ill buy 32 pts character. can ANYONE PLEASE give some GOOD build for TWF combat? I really dont like light armor ( but i do like disarm traps trough )so, somenthing that can use heavy armor. Drow with kophesh's or Dwarf with dwarven axe. For good DPS working, maybe disarming traps and stuff.


PLEASE.

It seems you have problems with multiclass builds. Stay pure!
You like dwarfs? Go for pure fighter or barb. If you buy the 32point characters, you can start with 18STR/16DEX/16CON and swing two axe (15dex is enough if you buy a +2tome). These builds are simple, but very powerfull.

[Dragavon]

Oh ****.
Really, im unlucky. First, i made Paladin/Figther Dwarf. It failed because outdated build. ( Screw my guild fórum. )
Second, Monk. Its was not toooo bad, but the monk play boring me.
Now, i finally have Drow ( I like Drows and Dwarfs ) and my build fail AGAIN. Im REALLY dont wanna back to Korthos again, i cant handle it anymore. ARGH! That's it, i ill buy 32 pts character. can ANYONE PLEASE give some GOOD build for TWF combat? I really dont like light armor ( but i do like disarm traps trough )so, somenthing that can use heavy armor. Drow with kophesh's or Dwarf with dwarven axe. For good DPS working, maybe disarming traps and stuff.


PLEASE.

Naah, we're only too happy to help you

You can have a look at this build of mine, to see if that is something you might like:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=268588

Just reduce starting CHA to 12 for a 32 point character.

The exploiter ranger is still viable, if not as awesome as it was a year ago

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168687

Oh, and drow with pesh isnt really a good idea. A drow's DPS is practically just as good with rapiers, and it free's up a very valuable feat

[Keepmypace]

Hey guys. I just created a topic to ask for some build.
please visit

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=279302


Really thanks for the help.

[elujin]

Oh ****.
Really, im unlucky. First, i made Paladin/Figther Dwarf. It failed because outdated build. ( Screw my guild fórum. )
Second, Monk. Its was not toooo bad, but the monk play boring me.
Now, i finally have Drow ( I like Drows and Dwarfs ) and my build fail AGAIN. Im REALLY dont wanna back to Korthos again, i cant handle it anymore. ARGH! That's it, i ill buy 32 pts character. can ANYONE PLEASE give some GOOD build for TWF combat? I really dont like light armor ( but i do like disarm traps trough )so, somenthing that can use heavy armor. Drow with kophesh's or Dwarf with dwarven axe. For good DPS working, maybe disarming traps and stuff.


PLEASE.

drow make verry good twf paladins with rapiers i wouldn't do trap skills though the int gimps almost any 28 build

a dwarven tempest/rog 18/2 could do traps just fine though