will this AA work?

[binderclip]

I'm on my 2nd life on my ranger, currently trying out a tempest (1st life is a pure elven AA) and was toying around the character planner for next life possibility (probably gona be the final build). The last life will be an AA still, but not sure i want to go back to pure AA again since its kind of a boring build. (fun to play still, just the fact that there is pretty much no variation in how you build an elven pure 20 ranger AA...is kind of boring).

Anyways, the main disadvantage for this build, as with all AA thats not pure ranger, the lose of capstone. However i added in fighter levels for kensai 1, fighter haste boost, and a couple more feats; while retaining 11 levels of ranger for complete free twf line and a lot of the essential range feats. 1 bard is ofc to qualify for AA without the stupid mental toughness...it also allows for easy UMD (which i missed out on the 1st life), and by putting enough skill point into preform the fascinate that bard get at level 1 can even work into end game content.

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Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Female
(8 Fighter \ 11 Ranger \ 1 Bard) 
Hit Points: 338
Spell Points: 220 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 18
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            18                    24
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             14                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               8                    11
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                2                     3
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  4                     9
Intimidate            2                     4
Jump                  7                    12
Listen               -1                     2
Move Silently         4                     7
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               6                    25
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     2
Spot                 -1                     2
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                8                    11
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Aberration


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

with 2 past life and the extra fighter feats, i can actually add +8-10 damage to range attack (which is the main area that range characters are lacking).

Briefly calculated the final HP (with +45 gs, +2 con, etc...) to come out around 500 hp without rage.
At a first glance the saves seems to be only ok... but its defiantly an area i would like to improve on.

Any comments, criticisms, suggestions are welcome. i'm sure there is probably some major flaw in here that i'm not seeing... but if not, would it be a viable build??

[negativeprogression]

nice idea

maybe swap the second toughness for force of personality and get some elf enchantment save enhancements to help with the will save?

[binderclip]

hm yeah. quickdraw and the 2nd toughness are both optional feats. will, even the dragon marks are they just there for free displacement clicky XD so yeah....i can do force of personality.

[hermespan]

nice build. you should have no problem hitting with a 24 dex and having a decent str helps when many shot isn't running and you go melee.

Why not 13 fighter and 6 ranger (or 12/7 depending on feat - at - level up level split)?

Kensai II is REAL nice. I'd take that over a favored enemy, take evil outsiders. +6 str for a minute when you activate the PrE ability. You could literally be on that cooldown when manyshot isn't running and really boost your melee damage.

Edit: Sorry should have mentioned this is final build. First 2 TR's do primary ranger for ranged damage boost PLF.

[binderclip]

well, 13 fighter grant me kensai 2 and powersurrge which is nice when melee...

however, the immediate costs i'm seeing: more AP (dunno if that will fit with the AA and all that), 2 bonus fighter feat, but lose evasion, precise shot, improve precise shot, gtwf (4 feats have to make up). and lose the ability to cast resist energy 30 (ranger 11).

might not be such a big deal if range is only the extra added benefit (such as a tempest). but this is an AA build, when not ranging she lose more than half of her damage potential

at least thats my thought processes anyways ^____^


*forgot to mention, the capstone speed lose should be make up to a degree with items such as the quiver, blackdragon scale, etc... Not completely made up, but...not total lose either. (theres also fighter haste 2 :P )

[grodon9999]

*forgot to mention, the capstone speed lose should be make up to a degree with items such as the quiver, blackdragon scale, etc... Not completely made up, but...not total lose either. (theres also fighter haste 2 :P )

I've not found the loss of the capstone to be a big deal since I got the ToD set.

[binderclip]

Elf True Neutral, 1Bard/11Ranger/8Fighter (2 Ranger Pastlife)

Starting 36 pt Stats
Str: 16
Dex: 18
Con: 14
Int: 8
Wis: 8
Cha: 14

Ending 36 pt Stats
Str: 16 +5 lvl up +2 Enhancement +6 item +2 tome +3 excp +2 rage +2 ram's might =38 (+14)
Dex: 18 +4 Enhanc +6 item +2 tome +2 excp =32 (+11)
Con: 14 +6 item +2 tome +2 rage =24 (+7)
Int: 8 +2 tome =10 (+0)
Wis: 8 +6 item +2 tome =16 (+3)
Cha: 14 +6 item +2 tome =22 (+6)

Skills
4 pts into Jump, Preform, UMD, at least 1 in tumble, rest whatever.
Level up skills: Max UMD, and max Preform as much as possible. Rest whatever.

end result UMD
23 rank +6 cha mod +2 head +5/6 shroud item +3/5 umd item +1 focusing chant=40/43
end result Preform
22 rank +6 cha mod +2 head +5/6 shroud item +15 item +2 songblade +1 focusing chant =53/54....+1d20 =54-75 Fascinate DC

Feats and lvl Progression
1Brd1-Point Blank Shot
2Rgr1-FE: Undead
3Rgr2-Toughness
4Ftr1-Weapon Focus: Range
5Ftr2-Quickdraw
6Ftr3-Lease Dragon Mark of Shadow (Invisib)
7Ftr4-Weapon Specialization: Range
8Rgr3
9Rgr4-Improve Critical: Range
10Rgr5-FE: Evil Outsider
11Rgr6
12Rgr7-Leaser Dragon Mark of Shadow (Displacement)
13Ftr5
14Ftr6-Improve Critical: Slash
15Ftr7-Power Attack
16Ftr8-Greater Weapon Focus: Range
17Rgr8
18Rgr9-Toughness OR Force of Personality
19Rgr10-FE: Aberration
20Rgr11

*Key level mark: at lvl 11 gains Manyshot, ITWF; at lvl 12 gains Displacement clicky; lvl20 gains GTWF, PS and IPS

Hit Points
20 Heroic
6 Bard
80 Fighter
88 Ranger
30 Greater False Life
22 Toughness
45 Shroud
10 Agent Favor
40 Enhanc
20 Minos
120 Con mod
----
481

22 2nd Toughness
20 Rage
20 Yugo Pot
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543


Saves*the weakest part of this build...personally feels like it at least.
Fort: 6 fighter +7 ranger +7 con mod +5 resist +4 GH +2 head =31
Reflex: 2 fighter +7 ranger +2 bard +11 dex mod +5 resist +4 GH +2 head +1 haste =34
Will: 2 fighter +3 ranger +2 bard +3 wis mod (6 if FOP) +5 resist +4 GH +2 head +1 rage=22 or 25 with FOP

*+4 Pally Aura +4 Holy Aura =+8 to all 3 saves.


Other
To-Hit, lose 4 from max dex ranger (assuming 40 end game dex), but gains +2 from feat, +1 enhanc, so only a net -1 lose compare to dex ranger.

Damage wise, lose 4 from 2 less FE, but gains +2 feat, +2 enhancement, +4 pastlife, +6 confirm crit, and +2 crit damage.

Speed wise lose the capstone, but gain fighter haste boost 2 to offset it a bit (and it can be use for both melee and range)

Melee wise, compare to a pure AA, this build sitting at 38 str, full TWF line, fighter haste boost 2, took 2 elf melee damage enhanc.

UMD allows for self heal, teleport, fire shield, self displacement from dragon marks.

Compare to a pure ranger, this build also miss out on the ability to cast FOM... but owelz. get the VON fom boots!!

[binderclip]

reserved for now.