Half-elf: why no Aerenal / Valenar Melee lines

[Natashaelle]

So...maybe if all the super-duper-uber powergamers ragequit when Half Elves go live without weapon enhancements, Turbine can rescale boss-mob hitpoints to more reasonable levels, and the rest of us can go on with enjoying our gaming without having to put up with snotty LFM messages.

We had about a year's worth of that after all of ours ragequit from Europe, and went over to Thelanis.

Was quite nice, actually ... though we didn't get any Boss-HP-nerf to go with it

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[psteen1]

Yes, they DO get Human Versatility

thanks for checking for me. +1

[Trillea]

Feh !! Lightsaber, I tell you. LIGHTSABER !!!

No, it's just a quarterstaff with the "brilliant energy" enchantment on both halves..

[Entelech]

We had about a year's worth of that after all of ours ragequit from Europe, and went over to Thelanis.

Was quite nice, actually ... though we didn't get any Boss-HP-nerf to go with it

You had the misfortune to be dealing with those slackers at Codemasters. You have my sympathies. And welcome to DDO Unlimited.

[Robi3.0]

I posted a suggestion, not having the melee enhancements woun't be a reason FOR ME to choose or not choose half-elf. But it's an easy suggestion to implement (simply copy from elf) and could give an interesting boost to an otherwise nearly useless class.

Stealing one of the only things elves get that makes them appealing to the "min/maxers" isn't really fixing anything since it will basically make elves pointless to play. I agree that elves are not finished, and the logically part of my brain thinks that maybe they should be delayed and update or two in order to finish them. Then there is the other part of me that wants them NOW. So I am on the fence about that. What I do know is that the easy fix is very rarely the appropriate fix.

ESPECIALLY given that lightsabers are a WARFORGED weapon for cripes' sake !!!

HOLY HELL!!!!!11!!!1!!11!!! Warforged are suppose to get laser swords and BLASTERS, if this were added I may roll up a warforged and actually play him.

If most DDO playerbase was not min/maxer with super-uber-build and with super-uber-epic-equip, there were no need to give bosses HP in the range of millions...

In my world of half guesses and hairy ass assumptions mob HP inflation is caused by greensteel weapons. Hell even the RP folks I know have a few. If you would like I can make up some statistics that prove my point.

[Diyon]

No, it's just a quarterstaff with the "brilliant energy" enchantment on both halves..

Speaking of which, could we maybe someday see double weapons worked into this game? It would just use existing code in a new place and no new animations to do it. Actually, I don't even care if make any new weapons for this. I'd just like to see quarterstaff work like in PnP rules: Usable with TWF.

[KristovK]

If most DDO playerbase was not min/maxer with super-uber-build and with super-uber-epic-equip, there were no need to give bosses HP in the range of millions...

Problem with that arguement..we had those bosses BEFORE we had the gear, much less the enhancements we have NOW, that makes plowing through them as easy as it currently is. So...so much for that one.

Care to try again? Go on, you know you want to, it's a common thing with powergamers, they try to make everyone else think they ARE the majority and the rest of the playerbase doesn't have a clue. Too bad the numbers are rather reversed of what you claim, which has been shown time and again in every online game out there, starting way back when in the old Rise of the Triad and Doom games, but you go on, it's always amusing to watch

And before you get going..I'm a powergamer, I mix/max, I've played games online for money, so I'm one of those powergaming elite. I'm also fully aware of exactly how small a minority we really are. Not to mention I've seen exactly what happens to a game when the makers listen to the vocal minority. Ever heard of Tribes:Vengance? Yeah..that's what happens when the makers listen to the powergaming elite..less then 50,000 copies of a sequal to a game that sold a LOT more copies. Sales were so bad that they didn't even release the first patch for the game, even though it was ready for download when the game hit the shelves. Yeah...please, do NOT listen to the powergaming elite devs, they(and I include myself in that) do NOT know what it takes to make a game better.

[spifflove]

Bastard sword enhancements would be the appropriate choice. And that solves two dilemmas at once.

[Natashaelle]

No, it's just a quarterstaff with the "brilliant energy" enchantment on both halves..

Q-Staff is a two-handed weapon, and quite unlike the WF Lightsaber in the illustration

[ilhares]

Bastard sword enhancements would be the appropriate choice. And that solves two dilemmas at once.

I like this idea, both because it's my favorite weapon, and I look forward to playing the half-elves. I'm just not a big fan of humans.

[BLugas]

I like this idea, both because it's my favorite weapon, and I look forward to playing the half-elves. I'm just not a big fan of humans.

Same here...
Bastards swords are so underrated in this game, they could use some more love :*C...they were my favorite weapons in PnP( maybe because they were the favored weapon of eilistraee, the dark elf (non - contaminated with demon blood drow) and good drow goddess in the forgotten realms, too bad that they killed her in 4e. )...

[Entelech]

Okay...put down the Forgotten Realms sourcebook and back slowly away.

Don't make me stage a Drizz't Intervention. It will hurt.

[Gladiator_206]

/signed

and /signed again.

They should get those lines, even if they are only allowed to go half as far as the intial races are allowed.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Q-Staff is a two-handed weapon, and quite unlike the WF Lightsaber in the illustration

Two-handed to use as a weapon, but you could hold it in one hand while using your other for something else, such as firing your arm-mounted lazorz.

[wolflordnexus]

Bastard sword enhancements would be the appropriate choice. And that solves two dilemmas at once.

I like this Idea but they would need the BS as martial type thing dorfs get with DWA to make it worth while

[Natashaelle]

Two-handed to use as a weapon, but you could hold it in one hand while using your other for something else, such as firing your arm-mounted lazorz.

This is true, except that the lightsaber in question has clearly been constructed for one-handed use -- given that it has a one-handed grip (although looking at it, if that toon were not to ignite the secondary blade, the grip might be long enough to use 2-handed like a more typical lightsaber -- but the grip on either a lightsaber or quarterstaff meant for 2-handed use using q-staff/bo stick style as such needs to be much longer, as you can see for yourself btw in The Phantom Menace).

[yodino]

Bastard sword enhancements would be the appropriate choice. And that solves two dilemmas at once.

It actually fits with half-elves, the co-relation with the name and all. :P

[SneakThief]

I like this Idea but they would need the BS as martial type thing dorfs get with DWA to make it worth while

I like this idea.

It actually fits with half-elves, the co-relation with the name and all. :P

I was thinking the exact same thing