An "elitist" request

[Wizzly_Bear]

Who picked the Voice?!

+! to you tooo. again, just ciz i felt like it

[Wizzly_Bear]

I don't think that word means what you think it means, El Guapo

fug it i had spare rep to give out sp +1 to you as well

[Wizzly_Bear]

Dear Thelanis,

-Please stop joining lfms that say "zerg" and then stopping at every collectable and p!$$-ant chest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking if we're in the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking for help in getting to the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms while anonymous.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "byoh ("bring your own healing" by the way) and not having any pots/scrolls.

-Please stop getting butt-hurt when you get kicked from groups because you didn't match up to the lfm and decided to join anyway.

Some tips...

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the quest listed and see the difficulty that is being run.

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the first box on the left and see who is where (ie: has the quest started yet)

-When perusing the lfms pay attention to the notes the party leader added. They had to actually type them out so those notes are probably important to that party leader.

- If you don't know the quest - fess up! Most party leaders will be happy to help you if you are honest about it, and those who won't aren't people you're going to enjoy running with anyway.

- If you don't know the quest - don't do $hit unless you are instructed to do so. Many quests can be ruined by doing something that logically seems very unimportant.

And finally...grow thicker skin and some metaphorical balls.

Dea anonyomus neg repper,

you can suck my bg fat hairy toe! the pos rep i unepectedly got from this outweighted your neg so a big fat and to you

[Rasczak]

I thought this was the quest in gh, can someone recall and come rez me here? I lagged.
What's fortification? I forgot there was a trap there. Soz

[Wizzly_Bear]

I thought this was the quest in gh, can someone recall and come rez me here? I lagged.
What's fortification? I forgot there was a trap there. Soz

my respone to "lag" deaths: I awlways blame lag too!

luckily for you fort and traps don coommunicate

[Rasczak]

my respone to "lag" deaths: I awlways blame lag too!

luckily for you fort and traps don coommunicate

lol I've had my share of actual lag deaths, opening a door and when I'm able to move again I'm a soulstone, jumping and ending up at the bottom of the pit, dc'ing and falling through a bridge upon relog.....

The one thing that I have never been able to do though is keep swinging while lagging and just not quite being able to drink a pot....or my keyboard lagging so I can't stop running forward
Or like yesterday, I lagged while talking to the dragon so it auto-selected my answers.....

[blitzschlag]

lol I've had my share of actual lag deaths, opening a door and when I'm able to move again I'm a soulstone, jumping and ending up at the bottom of the pit, dc'ing and falling through a bridge upon relog.....

The one thing that I have never been able to do though is keep swinging while lagging and just not quite being able to drink a pot....or my keyboard lagging so I can't stop running forward
Or like yesterday, I lagged while talking to the dragon so it auto-selected my answers.....

yeah, ras has lots of lag in SA



or







he likes to die silly deaths over and over and over








and over and over again

[Rasczak]

Soulstones are pretty and some people won't believe the usual piking excuses......sometimes I have to drown in a puddle to get a free ride

[Wizzly_Bear]

lol I've had my share of actual lag deaths, opening a door and when I'm able to move again I'm a soulstone, jumping and ending up at the bottom of the pit, dc'ing and falling through a bridge upon relog.....

The one thing that I have never been able to do though is keep swinging while lagging and just not quite being able to drink a pot....or my keyboard lagging so I can't stop running forward
Or like yesterday, I lagged while talking to the dragon so it auto-selected my answers.....

lol

obviously SOME lag deths happen, but tis funny (to me tha tis) to poke a little fun

Soulstones are pretty and some people won't believe the usual piking excuses......sometimes I have to drown in a puddle to get a free ride

this is quite possibly athe best respone iv eever seen (wine, mnargs, and beer no withstanding)! remind me to +@ you

[moorewr]

Wizzly been pugging again.. of course, aren't we all? I was in a shroud the other day that had at least 9 different guilds represented...

PS: I'm feeling generous so I'll skip my usual policy of neg repping anyone who complains that they were neg repped.

PPS: On the lag comment above.. I did seriously lag out in the end room of New Invasion (twice - I think my client and that room's traps don't get along) the other day and die, and couldn't resist cussing a bit into the mic. I was immediately sorry, because it's all like, "oh sure, blame the lag."

[Vint]

+1 Wizzly. I have never loved you more. The bad thing is, the people that know how to follow, or not neg 10p, are the only ones to seem to read this stuff.

[Clay]

Dear Thelanis,

-Please stop joining lfms that say "zerg" and then stopping at every collectable and p!$$-ant chest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking if we're in the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking for help in getting to the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms while anonymous.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "byoh ("bring your own healing" by the way) and not having any pots/scrolls.

-Please stop getting butt-hurt when you get kicked from groups because you didn't match up to the lfm and decided to join anyway.

Some tips...

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the quest listed and see the difficulty that is being run.

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the first box on the left and see who is where (ie: has the quest started yet)

-When perusing the lfms pay attention to the notes the party leader added. They had to actually type them out so those notes are probably important to that party leader.

- If you don't know the quest - fess up! Most party leaders will be happy to help you if you are honest about it, and those who won't aren't people you're going to enjoy running with anyway.

- If you don't know the quest - don't do $hit unless you are instructed to do so. Many quests can be ruined by doing something that logically seems very unimportant.

And finally...grow thicker skin and some metaphorical balls.

You must spread more reputation around before ... Lucky for you because I was going to neg rep you for whining about neg rep! Big tough guy, that's like joining your LFM and asking "where's the quest?"

Amen brutha! AMEN!

[Legohaiden]

/tell Wizzlybear Can i join your group? im a lvl 3 fighter/wizard/cleric. I can heal!

[elujin]

Dear Thelanis,

-Please stop joining lfms that say "zerg" and then stopping at every collectable and p!$$-ant chest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking if we're in the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking for help in getting to the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms while anonymous.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "byoh ("bring your own healing" by the way) and not having any pots/scrolls.

-Please stop getting butt-hurt when you get kicked from groups because you didn't match up to the lfm and decided to join anyway.

Some tips...

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the quest listed and see the difficulty that is being run.

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the first box on the left and see who is where (ie: has the quest started yet)

-When perusing the lfms pay attention to the notes the party leader added. They had to actually type them out so those notes are probably important to that party leader.

- If you don't know the quest - fess up! Most party leaders will be happy to help you if you are honest about it, and those who won't aren't people you're going to enjoy running with anyway.

- If you don't know the quest - don't do $hit unless you are instructed to do so. Many quests can be ruined by doing something that logically seems very unimportant.

And finally...grow thicker skin and some metaphorical balls.

most times i don't like groups like this but its clearly stated what to expect so i don't join them its more anoying when you join a group like these and they didn't state it .

also when i don't know a quest i don't thouch anything (not even levers at the doors or chest you never know when it will turn in to a big fireball XD )

(and why neg rep the op its a perfectly reasonble request to know how to read lfm)

[Maxou69]

Welcome back Wizzly

[BangsLiekWhoa]

-Please stop joining lfms that say "byoh ("bring your own healing" by the way) and not having any pots/scrolls.If someone joins my LFM that states these things and they are going to die, I let them. They can get the completion then release out. (at which point I will likely boot them so they don't cost me XP on the next quest.)

- If you don't know the quest - fess up! Most party leaders will be happy to help you if you are honest about it, and those who won't aren't people you're going to enjoy running with anyway.I zerged through levels 4-9 the other day and had someone join who didn't know the game hardly at all (he just started playing 2 days before) but he admitted that first thing and was willing to take any advice the rest of the party offered. He turned out to be great to run with and he learned a lot with us. I like helping newbies as long as they admit they are new, and are willing to listen/learn.

Yeah, I'm from G-land, but this all still applies.

[stoolcannon]

Dear Thelanis,

-Please stop joining lfms that say "zerg" and then stopping at every collectable and p!$$-ant chest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking if we're in the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "in progress" and/or "know your way" and then asking for help in getting to the quest.

-Please stop joining lfms while anonymous.

-Please stop joining lfms that say "byoh ("bring your own healing" by the way) and not having any pots/scrolls.

-Please stop getting butt-hurt when you get kicked from groups because you didn't match up to the lfm and decided to join anyway.

Some tips...

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the quest listed and see the difficulty that is being run.

-When perusing the lfms you can hover over the first box on the left and see who is where (ie: has the quest started yet)

-When perusing the lfms pay attention to the notes the party leader added. They had to actually type them out so those notes are probably important to that party leader.

- If you don't know the quest - fess up! Most party leaders will be happy to help you if you are honest about it, and those who won't aren't people you're going to enjoy running with anyway.

- If you don't know the quest - don't do $hit unless you are instructed to do so. Many quests can be ruined by doing something that logically seems very unimportant.

And finally...grow thicker skin and some metaphorical balls.

I agree with most of this but the last point is a slippery slope. I always announce that I'm new to something if I am but sometimes it's nice to actually "play" a quest rather than simply be instructed. If I join a group that says "zerg" or "expert only" or some such then I expect that to an extent and I will ride along and follow instructions but if not it's nice to just enjoy the quest and learn as I go.

So far in my 4 months of play I've not really experienced many quests from a fresh perspective because usually there's someone in there telling everyone where every single trap/chest/passage/thing to do is and it can get a little boring.

I think a lot of vets treat the game like work and get too upset if things don't go perfectly every time. My personal opinion is that if you get upset if a quest fails, or if you lost 10% XP because someone died then you're taking the game a bit too seriously.

Again, I want to qualify that when I join certain groups I expect that and act accordingly but on my most recent toons I've just been running with a single friend and hirelings so I can actually experience the quests first hand instead of just chasing zergers and following instructions.

I'll also add that there's nothing more annoying in the game than elitists. I've joined a couple of LFM's that were up when I didn't know the quest despite them asking for experts (since there was nothing else posted at my level etc) and quickly announced that "hey I don't quite fit the bill for what you're looking for but I'm intelligent and run my toon well" only to have them first berate then kick me from the group. Those folks make a quick trip to my squelch list.

[Rasczak]

I think a lot of vets treat the game like work and get too upset if things don't go perfectly every time. My personal opinion is that if you get upset if a quest fails, or if you lost 10% XP because someone died then you're taking the game a bit too seriously.

Not really true at all. A lot of Vet's have been through quests hundreds of times, work would be taking new players through it again and again everytime you do it. That leads back to reading the lfm.

You have the right attitude except for one thing, Vet's give a walkthru based on the fact that a lot of new players expect it. If you don't want it, then set up an lfm for new players and no spoilers.

As for getting upset, you either a casual player or haven't spent ages doing the same thing. See it's not anger, it's massive amounts of frustration. A lot of us have RL responsibilities and don't want to sit around waiting for a new player to experience the dungeon. That is why the lfm's state it's a zerg and whatnot. I don't personally scream and shout but I will get annoyed if a player hasn't said they are new and then dies in silly ways or doesn't listen.

It's got nothing to do with taking the game to seriously, it's got to do with wasting our precious time. If I want a challenge I'll go into a quest that is challenging and expect to spend time there. If I'm after speed runs for loot and xp then I will be taking note of players who have not mentioned they are new (nothing wrong with being new) or waste my time.

Your fun right now may be experiencing the game, but understand the other people's fun is TR'ing, looting and zerging....it works both ways

[Ironforge_Clan]

Thanks Wizzly +1

[SINIBYTE]

im a lvl 3 fighter/wizard/cleric. I can heal!

Did they use my GIMP roller?
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=270690

lol.