What makes a healer "uber"?

[Llewndyn]

The other night (not last night those guys were cool) I was in a shroud run and noticed the clerics were engaging in some, sadly more and more typical healer behavior: Not banging on portals, not really fighting all that much if at all, kinda talking about how uber they are and giving us the bidness about how much it is costing to keep us healed, telling us they will require donations for having to drink pots after the mission, just going about the whole thing with a misplaced sense of entitlement. This is not just something with the shroud, it's something that has become more and more prevalent throughout my storied career on this hallowed game.

At first I would meekly agree, since a lot of the time any argument led to me not getting healed, and there is a very thin line between a rogue leading the kill count because someone else has agro, and accidentally doing enough damage to get agro and not having a healer to back him up, and that line is a *ding* sound. I would quietly schlep along, standing where the cleric told me to, accepting the random berating of my character class and quietly accepting them barking orders at others, no one wishing to annoy them for fear that they will be ostracized from the gentle healing teets all healers possess (ugh, that conjured up some pictures I don't EVER wanna think about again), but I think it's time to put those crazy cats in their place. 95% of you healers are NOT uber players. UBER healers:

1. Can solo heal even non-optimal builds without whining
2. can go with the ebb and flow of battle and get buffs to who needs them (within reason, but making everyone stop what they are doing because you have decided "I shall now bestow my buffs on you wretched masses" is kinda lame)
3. Can contribute kill count
4. Are willing to get their hands dirty (portal bashing, trash mob pickup, etc.)
5. Realize the ALL classes expend resources and suck it up (Does the rogue ask for donations for thieves tools? Does the Caster ask for $$$ for spell components? Does the fighter ask for money to repair his items?)

I have played with uber healers before (one was a complete and total jerk about it but I give credit where credit is due) but not THAT many of them. If there are 3 healers in a raid and you wipe on the Chicken's first iteration, no that doesn't mean you suck but you are no longer to refer to yourself as UBER. If you have 2 healers in a raid 4 levels below you and run out of sp so often that the rogue and sorc have to break out wands to keep YOU alive and you still can't be bothered to fight, that doesn't mean you suck but you are not UBER.

WHat makes a healer uber for you?

[SaisMatters]

WHat makes a healer uber for you?

The Human Being behind the Toon!

[Lorz]

Healers are over rated.

[Frostwhisperer]

I prefer clerics and FvS above healers.

[sirgog]

WHat makes a healer uber for you?

On the healing side:

Acceptable: Can soloheal Normal Shroud in a group that takes one pass to kill Harry
Solid: Can soloheal Elite Shroud in a group that takes two passes to kill Harry
Excellent: Can do the same without using mana potions
Uber: Can soloheal Epic DQ2 in a group that has four sets of Efreeti spawn and takes 60 sec to get Lailat to the platform

[Halock]

Attention span.

Edit: More of it the more uber.

[~jradnut]

I would gladly bare your children, lol, if only cuz nobody else can.

[mickey2toes]

hmmm...

I play a Fvs on orien. I have solo healed Shroud, all difficulties. I am a competant (spelled correctly?) "healer".

To me a Uber healer is one that does WHATEVER is required to get a completion. He knows how to be a team player.

When I started on this game a year ago, I was very fortunant to get into a great guild with a great healer, (Arnmugusson), and I learned from him and the others in the guild (Bap, RC, Cran, Pushr, and many others) how to be a TEAM player.

[Bacab]

[QUOTE=Llewndyn;3313348]
double post

[Bacab]

5. Realize the ALL classes expend resources and suck it up (Does the rogue ask for donations for thieves tools? Does the Caster ask for $$$ for spell components? Does the fighter ask for money to repair his items?)


WHat makes a healer uber for you?

Understand...

1 SP pot off the AH=about 1000 Thief Tools

100 heal Scrolls=about 1000 Thief Tools

Clerics and Favored Souls have to repair items also...and sometimes our Scrolls/wands/Sp Pots get destroyed...

Also Clerics and Favored souls use spell components just like that Arcane...

So part number 5 really makes you like like you do not have much knowledge on what you are talking about.

Out of curiousity...what level is your highest healer? What is there class/level breakdown?

Also the reason some clerics/favored souls are arrogant...demographics...

You see...we are rare. DPS is not rare.

Also for most quests...we can solo. I do agree the arrogance needs to cease.

And I do agree many clerics/FVS suck (I am tired of carrying their soul stones and solo healing because they have 250 HP and eat a meteor swarm to the face and die in part 4)

But the main reason we ("healers") talk smack? Because you need us and we rarely need you.

[Bacab]

hmmm...

To me a Uber healer is one that does WHATEVER is required to get a completion. He knows how to be a team player.
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I refuse to drink SP pots on Normal Shrouds.

I refuse to drink SP pots on any Non-Epic raid other than>>>

ToD
Abbot

[mickey2toes]

I refuse to drink SP pots on Normal Shrouds.

I refuse to drink SP pots on any Non-Epic raid other than>>>

ToD
Abbot

You may be a good/great healer but i don't think you are uber...

"WHATEVER it takes to get the completion"

[Wizzly_Bear]

I prefer clerics and FvS above healers.

^this

[Wizzly_Bear]

I refuse to drink SP pots on Normal Shrouds.

I refuse to drink SP pots on any Non-Epic raid other than>>>

ToD
Abbot

fail

a good team plaer give 10)% regarldss class. a good player of xc class gets the job done.
see: renegadew, mhyke, tethticklesmahballs, wizzly, ghose, etc

[Memnir]

I just ask myself: are they sponge-worthy?
Yes = uber (and possibly a restraining order)
No = no.

[Bacab]

You may be a good/great healer but i don't think you are uber...

"WHATEVER it takes to get the completion"

1. I have soloed VoD...

2. I have soloed Elite DQ...(not really difficult TBH)

3. I am currently "training" to duo an evasion-less Elite Shroud with a Barb (hes a bad dude though)

4. I have saved/carried many PUG ToDs (you can ask around on my Server, Ghallanda...lag can be rough in there)

5. I have solo healed Elite shrouds (use a good amount of scrolls when I do this)

6. I have solo healed EVoN6 (big deal that raid has been 3 manned...I know)

A great healer/player does not waste resources on gimped shroud groups.

I refuse to down SP pots...I have to save them for special occasions...for things such as 1-4.

I am not trying to brag...but I have listed my credentials.

May I see yours?

[Bacab]

fail

a good team plaer give 10)% regarldss class. a good player of xc class gets the job done.
see: renegadew, mhyke, tethticklesmahballs, wizzly, ghose, etc

I just refuse to carry a poor group through an *EASY* raid with my SP pots.

I have no problem re-forming with less pikers/pile-ons

Scrolls...no problem.

SP Pots...precious.

And yeah...healers suck.

Favored Souls and Clerics rawk...

My WF FVS contributes with DPS.

My human evoker though is a heal bot in certain raids...but can do lotsa other stuff in other raids (kiting Nytheros etc etc, kiting gnoll archers in EDQ while healing main party)

[rodallec]

solo heals shrouds
swings at portals

intims trash and orthons in vod for the sp regen/mitigate dmg to party
(you know who you are and that is quite uber imo)

[taurean430]

You may be a good/great healer but i don't think you are uber...

"WHATEVER it takes to get the completion"

I used to think that. Then I realized that I was spending entirely to much on resources quickly burnt up in getting completions. I am now a fan of letting people learn by failure.

This is not true in all cases by a longshot. However, I have seen what allowing poor players their completions off of my back does. And they learn nothing. My best lessons in this game to date were learned by quest failures.

As to the OP; mind sharing with us how many 'healers' you play? And are any of them capped?

[Wizzly_Bear]

5. I have solo healed Elite shrouds (use a good amount of scrolls when I do this)

Rest is pretty stanard, but seem e when yoyu can do this one with no consumbales./