WF vs. Halforc vs. Dwarf: Best Tank?

[Boromirs]

Curious what each of the races brings to the table and which of them ultimately trumps out on being the best tank. I may make a Halforc Intimi/hate tank belive it or not, just wondering if Dwarf or even WF would be better at this though, what do each have to offer? Your thoughts?

[khaldan]

Curious what each of the races brings to the table and which of them ultimately trumps out on being the best tank. I may make a Halforc Intimi/hate tank belive it or not, just wondering if Dwarf or even WF would be better at this though, what do each have to offer? Your thoughts?

WF.

Being able to be healed through curses is better than the extra dps increase brought by half-orc.

[Jakarr]

Half-Orc brings a little more damage with the extra str enh and other enh to damage.

Dwarf brings extra axe damage and attack, Tactics

WF brings immunities, being able to be healed by an arcane and thus healing curse isn't to bad. Power attack enh like HO, Tactics, incite


Imo....

Best tank is a WF followed by the HO(we will see) then dwarf also a Human is good b/c of the extra heal aug.

Now that said just being the "best" race for a tank wont out do player skill when playing a tank as its more then just hitting intim and shield blocking.

[Boromirs]

Half-Orc brings a little more damage with the extra str enh and other enh to damage.

Dwarf brings extra axe damage and attack, Tactics

WF brings immunities, being able to be healed by an arcane and thus healing curse isn't to bad. Power attack enh like HO, Tactics, incite


Imo....

Best tank is a WF followed by the HO(we will see) then dwarf also a Human is good b/c of the extra heal aug.

Now that said just being the "best" race for a tank wont out do player skill when playing a tank as its more then just hitting intim and shield blocking.

Yeh, the arcane healing is decent. I was wondering ...is it possible to tank and whip out a scroll/wand and repair yourself at the same time? If so, I can see why WF would be better (since drinking a curse pot is near impossible with something constantly maiming you), but flicking a wand might be doable... but that horc extra dam sure looks nice lol and dwarf shield DR/bonuses are also pretty nice.

[Baron]

I would think WF for the reasons listed above.

[Boromirs]

I would think WF for the reasons listed above.

The reasons are kinda weak imho. They dont get bonuses to intimidate, they do on hate but horcs get that too. They dont have any particualr built in defenses other then immunities (but horcs can get that through other means), the arcane healing is probably the only plus to this whole debate, but really..how hard is it to just throw a remove curse then a heal on the guy... not that hard I've seen it happen all the time. Now, if the WF can wand whip heal during tanking...THATs a totally different story (as it frees up the healer to do other things).

[azrael4h]

Dwarf
1 - Free to play.
2 - +2 CON, extra Racial Toughness
3 - Axe damage and attack enhancements
4 - Free exotic weapon feat for classes with martial weapons.
5 - Extra Tactics and Armor/Shield mastery lines.

Warforged
1 - Disease, Poison, and Energy Drain immunity
2 - Underwater Action and Light Fortification inherent
3 - +2 CON and extra Racial Toughness enhancements
4 - WF Great Weapon Aptitude enhancements
5 - Arcane healing (which works through curses as well), Divine Healing at half effectiveness.
6 - Inherent DR
7 - Power attack line

Half-Orc
1 - +2 STR, STR enhancements.
2 - Extra two-handed weapon damage enhancements
3 - Orcish Fury enhancement line
4 - Power Attack line

Of course, I'm not as familiar with HOs as most others; I'm not remotely interested in playing one, and won't be buying them. But, for AC-tanks, Dwarves seem the more viable choice for more easily reached levels of viable AC. At least early on. For TWFing, DWA is a solid choice, and since it's free, viable for feat-starved classes. Most importantly, Dwarf is free, and that makes it many people's first, or only, choice. Half-Orcs seem best for pure, raw damage output, particularly with THF. Warforged are strong due to inherent immunities, more than any dps or AC reasons.

Of course, Elf is the best choice, for the butt. They don't look like Rick Steiner, like Dwarves, or Hulk Hogan, like HOs. And they certainly don't look like Warforged. The best butt in the game is the female elf's butt, and since I've got to be staring at it for hours on end, I'd rather it be a nice, attractive butt.

[Boromirs]

Dwarf
1 - Free to play.
2 - +2 CON, extra Racial Toughness
3 - Axe damage and attack enhancements
4 - Free exotic weapon feat for classes with martial weapons.
5 - Extra Tactics and Armor/Shield mastery lines.

Warforged
1 - Disease, Poison, and Energy Drain immunity
2 - Underwater Action and Light Fortification inherent
3 - +2 CON and extra Racial Toughness enhancements
4 - WF Great Weapon Aptitude enhancements
5 - Arcane healing (which works through curses as well), Divine Healing at half effectiveness.
6 - Inherent DR
7 - Power attack line

Half-Orc
1 - +2 STR, STR enhancements.
2 - Extra two-handed weapon damage enhancements
3 - Orcish Fury enhancement line
4 - Power Attack line

Of course, I'm not as familiar with HOs as most others; I'm not remotely interested in playing one, and won't be buying them. But, for AC-tanks, Dwarves seem the more viable choice for more easily reached levels of viable AC. At least early on. For TWFing, DWA is a solid choice, and since it's free, viable for feat-starved classes. Most importantly, Dwarf is free, and that makes it many people's first, or only, choice. Half-Orcs seem best for pure, raw damage output, particularly with THF. Warforged are strong due to inherent immunities, more than any dps or AC reasons.

Of course, Elf is the best choice, for the butt. They don't look like Rick Steiner, like Dwarves, or Hulk Hogan, like HOs. And they certainly don't look like Warforged. The best butt in the game is the female elf's butt, and since I've got to be staring at it for hours on end, I'd rather it be a nice, attractive butt.

it's true, female elves' butts defy gravity.

But, honestly half orcs get everything WF do except immunities and arcane healing (they get DR through their armor..which is pretty inherent).

[Entelech]

On a related note, has anyone experimented on a Pale Master in Undead form? Can they be healed with Negative Energy while under these curses?

If the answer is yes, then my answer is "Half Elves"

(1) Unquestioned superiority with the Intimidate skill

(2) Elven ability to wear armor as a Wizard with reduced ASF

(3) Lack of racial penalty to Constitution

(4) Three-way tie for ugliest avatar with WF and Horcs.

[FluffyCalico]

Curious what each of the races brings to the table and which of them ultimately trumps out on being the best tank. I may make a Halforc Intimi/hate tank belive it or not, just wondering if Dwarf or even WF would be better at this though, what do each have to offer? Your thoughts?

We all know how you feel from the other 50 threads just like this you have made with a different heading. Please stop reposting a new half orc is over powered thread every single day.