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    Default Breaking down old green steel

    New items continue to come into the game that we change our builds around for and green steel items that were in their place become paperweights in our bank accounts as we craft them into new locations.

    What I'm hoping for is sometime in the near future to have the ability to break your old green steel down for it's ingredients. Perhaps you lose all the shards & energy cells as the cost. I'd even be ok if like 25-50% of the ingredients didn't come back.... but some return on the investment of ingredients that we've put into these items that are collecting dust would be nice to see.

    Any word on if something like this is in the works or can be sometime soon?
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    EH? Devs care to respond?
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    You have no idea how much I would love this. I JUST got done with my T3 cloak. Nothing too hard, just a 45 HP item with a few SS clickies. Then I went to Lammania and saw this awesome new cloak! But do I really want to regrind EVERYTHING? No thank you. My next two toons will be prepared, that's for sure, as I will not be making their cloak slot GS.

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    been mentioned before, as always

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    If not a deconstruct option, at least a transfer of the properties to a different blank.

    I'm sure all the twf dwarfs going Horc arent looking forward to banking thier DA's and crafting new khopeshes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlocke View Post
    If not a deconstruct option, at least a transfer of the properties to a different blank.
    That would be a great option as well.

    Feel free to respond to the thread any time devs....
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    This gets mentioned every patch and it's not just good for build changes/TR's it would be nice for those that occasionally mess up their crafting. I support this and hope it gets implemented and not as a for purchase TP option.
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    Judging by the countless number of threads up concerning this...

    A dev won't touch this unfortunately for whatever reason...

    I'd be ecstatic to be proved wrong however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncholy View Post
    That would be a great option as well.

    Feel free to respond to the thread any time devs....
    In general, any thread that specifically asks for a dev response will not get one.

    Forgetting that reality though... there have been 10s of suggestion posts with the exact same sentiment of yours, dating back nearly to the introduction of the Shroud. Your idea is very popular among the player base, and pretty much ignored amongst the devs. (Oh, there was one statement along the lines of "item deconstruction is not among our current plans", so I guess not all the threads have been ignored.)

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    My opinion: /not signed

    If you don't want to lose item effectiveness because of a TR... don't TR. It's one of those "Cost/benefit" things. So those dwarf twf's can just put their daxes in the bank. I have a chaotic good dwarf that has a maralith (spl?) chain in the bank, that I'm debating whether or not to epic and TR for.

    I don't know if it would work, but perhaps there can be a crafting option that will change the BTC/A that a greensteel item has, allowing it to be sold on the AH.... one person's junk is another's joy. Or instead of a crafting option, much like the cleansing item that allows you to wear more than one GS item, have an item that will remove the BTA/C to make it sellable.

    I'm not against the idea, but to me, it just seems like you're easy buttoning green steel.

    Again, just my (probably unpopular) opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    If you don't want to lose item effectiveness because of a TR... don't TR.
    If you don't continue to update you equipment for the latest and greatest new stuff that comes out for your build you will continue to gimp your toon more and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncholy View Post
    If you don't continue to update you equipment for the latest and greatest new stuff that comes out for your build you will continue to gimp your toon more and more.
    Agreed.

    Hence the suggestion of making it so that you can sell "older" "outdated" "less usefull" items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    Agreed.

    Hence the suggestion of making it so that you can sell "older" "outdated" "less usefull" items.
    That would equate to being able to put raid loot into the economy, so /not signed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirea View Post
    That would equate to being able to put raid loot into the economy, so /not signed.
    Which can be done with GS blanks already, so long as it is not equipped.

    What's your point?

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    The Shroud and greensteel is the best grind mechanic that DDO has ever seen. Why would Turbine want to help you minimize it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    Which can be done with GS blanks already, so long as it is not equipped.

    What's your point?
    You tell me the difference: Selling a GS blank, which still requires the buyer to run shroud, get shards, get ingredients, and craft it - or buying a fully-crafted, possibly dual shard item that requires zero effort but alludes to multiple shroud runs even if the person has never stepped foot in the raid.

    Hmm...seems like a no-brainer to me...
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    Default "Gimp your toon" is both realitive and subjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meloncholy View Post
    If you don't continue to update you equipment for the latest and greatest new stuff that comes out for your build you will continue to gimp your toon more and more.
    Just because you don't have the latest and greatest gear doesn't mean you can't be a relevant, contributing member of a party in any quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phidius View Post
    The Shroud and greensteel is the best grind mechanic that DDO has ever seen. Why would Turbine want to help you minimize it?
    Perhaps because they want you to buy other adventure packs as well?
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    This has been discussed...about 400,000 times since the Shroud came out.

    In that time the only dev comment was basically "no, we are not considering this".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One View Post
    This has been discussed...about 400,000 times since the Shroud came out.

    In that time the only dev comment was basically "no, we are not considering this".
    Changing DQ2 flagging to remove the requirement to rerun OOB/Wiz-King/Chains was discussed about 400000 times since the Desert ceased to be endgame.

    In that time, the only Dev comment was basically 'no, we are not considering this'.


    Sometimes, beating a dead horse does achieve something - and a huge influx of extra scales into the economy (which is what GS deconstruction would result in) would be fantastic, and dull one of the two or three worst grinds in the game.
    I don't have a zerging problem.

    I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.

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