Please give Half Elves elven weapon enhancement lines

[Whargoul]

Since half elves are still considered elves for negative effects, it would be reasonable that they share slightly more heritage with their elven parentage/aptitudes in the form of certain enhancement choices.

I'm suggesting to add Aerenal, Valenar, Ranged, and possibly Drow Melee/Ranged lines to Half Elves. To balance, perhaps add various Dilletante feats as additional optional prerequisites, that way Half Elven fighters would not NEED to take Dilletante: Fighter to qualify for the weapon enhancement lines.

[AylinIsAwesome]

At the current time, this would be a mistake as it would remove the tiny bonus Elves have currently with melee weapons.

Half-Elves do need to be finished, but for the most part I'm reserving judgment until they're finished.

[Alabore]

Since half elves are still considered elves for negative effects, it would be reasonable that they share slightly more heritage with their elven parentage/aptitudes in the form of certain enhancement choices.

/not sure I would sign.

Rationale: being considered elven is actually advantageous; immunity to sleep and ghoul touch, resistance to charm/domination.

Also, h-elves get human line's boosts to attack.
With elven weapon boosts they'd be above both humans and elves.
Do not dismiss human versatility boosts: they scale with char level.
A full elf would have to splash deeply for the same boosts on some builds.

[LookingForABentoBox]

For melee characters that don't care about dex that's the main reason to go elf. To give the same option to half-elves would make relves a subpar choice since players would get the same bonus without the -2 con tradeoff

[SilentSnake]

I think a nice way to make it a good and customizeable race while maintain balance could be to give them:

1. Just the first tier of all the elven weapons enhancements ( Aeranal Melee Attack/ Damage I, Valenar Melee Attack/Damage I, Elven Bow Attack/Damage I ) - with the mechanism that exclude Aeranal if Valenar is chosen and vice versa )

or

2.The possibility to choose full elven weapon enhancements only if they have previously chosen the Elven Dexterity enhancements line, which locks out full Human Versatility/Recovery enhancements lines. Vice versa if the choice is made toward Human Adaptability/Greater Adaptability, the elven weapon enhancements line will be unavailable.
Elf training vs Human training. Some Half-elf consider themself offspring of the elves, others embrace their human origin. It makes sense to me

[AylinIsAwesome]

I think a nice way to make it a good and customizeable race while maintain balance could be to give them:

1. Just the first tier of all the elven weapons enhancements ( Aeranal Melee Attack/ Damage I, Valenar Melee Attack/Damage I, Elven Bow Attack/Damage I ) - with the mechanism that exclude Aeranal if Valenar is chosen and vice versa )

Maybe.

or

2.The possibility to choose full elven weapon enhancements only if they have previously chosen the Elven Dexterity enhancements line, which locks out full Human Versatility/Recovery enhancements lines. Vice versa if the choice is made toward Human Adaptability/Greater Adaptability, the elven weapon enhancements line will be unavailable.
Elf training vs Human training. Some Half-elf consider themself offspring of the elves, others embrace their human origin. It makes sense to me

No.

This would just turn them into Elves with no -CON penalty and a bonus feat at first level.

[SilentSnake]

This would just turn them into Elves with no -CON penalty and a bonus feat at first level.

Maybe in pure combat definition they may be very well equal, but in general terms they will still lack:
- +2 Dexterity
- +2 Will saves vs Enchantments
- Free longsword, rapier, shortbow and longbow proficiency
- +1 extra bonus to Spot & Search
- Elven Keen Eyes III to IV
- Elven Perception III to IV
- Elven Arcanum I to IV
- Elf enchantments resistance I to III
- Dragonmark of Shadow

The bonus feat half-elf gets is not a real one like the Human one. It may be useful, but elves are not just a -2 con ^.^

But even if you don't like the option 2, the first one should look like a good balance for a new race ( that has to be purchased at the store ) that can be considered, for what you previously said, just an elf with +2 con and no enhancements

[noinfo]

Since half elves are still considered elves for negative effects, it would be reasonable that they share slightly more heritage with their elven parentage/aptitudes in the form of certain enhancement choices.

I'm suggesting to add Aerenal, Valenar, Ranged, and possibly Drow Melee/Ranged lines to Half Elves. To balance, perhaps add various Dilletante feats as additional optional prerequisites, that way Half Elven fighters would not NEED to take Dilletante: Fighter to qualify for the weapon enhancement lines.

As long as they locked out some of the human ones as a result I don't have a problem. The other solution is to only allow the first tier.