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    If you want an undead beater go make a Triple Pos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psymun View Post
    I think I just like seeing the crit bursts going off... Even with a 5d6 vs. Undead I think my Radiance II does more damage overall because of the critical burst damages, but I don't feel like doing the math so I'll just leave it at that lol...
    what weapon is your radiance? rapier? khopesh? warhammer?

    Before any considerations on damage, in Wiz king the most important weapon type is Blundgeon and fire is not as useful as other damage types. The skellys have DR 40/blunt the Wiz king himself has a similar if not greater DR, a very high AC and is virtually immune to fire. Most mummies cast protection from fire as soon as they appear. all these must be taken into account.

    not to mention, critical bursts are always inferior to damage per hit.

    a Min II rapier with good burst deals 1d6 damage per hit and an additional 3d6 every crit with the range 15-20/x2

    do you think that is better than the 2d6 from Holy?

    Holy = 3.5+3.5 = 7 *19 hits in 20 attacks (if character hits on a 2) = 133
    Good Burst = 3.5 * 19 + 10.5 *6/20 = 66.5 + 3.15 = 69.65

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    Quote Originally Posted by elraido View Post
    If you want an undead beater go make a Triple Pos.
    Except on epics where disruption doesn't work. And if you're referring to the damage part only an undead bane weapon will probably beat a Pos III
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    Quote Originally Posted by LookingForABentoBox View Post
    Except on epics where disruption doesn't work. And if you're referring to the damage part only an undead bane weapon will probably beat a Pos III
    Who uses it for the disruption? I am taking about the ~15d6 points of burst damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elraido View Post
    Who uses it for the disruption? I am taking about the ~15d6 points of burst damage.
    Do you mean blast damage? Because if you mean burst damage you get then on a Pos II
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    Quote Originally Posted by psymun View Post
    Unfortunately no.

    I would like to see them make it so that any creature that takes damage from Greater Evil Outsider takes damage from Knight of the Chalice.
    That is interesting. I noticed that ranger favored enemy (evil ousiders) will not kick in on tieflings, but weapon bane (evil ousiders) will. This is current on live, not lama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookingForABentoBox View Post
    Do you mean blast damage? Because if you mean burst damage you get then on a Pos II
    Burst/Blast damage...symantics. Critical strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    that sux but not surprised. the devs have it in their mind that undead needs to be immune to everything (see monk touch of death nerf) so this just seemed natural.
    Kills me with laughter how people think that Touch of Death is suppose to mean Touch of 500-to-2000-points-of-untyped-damage.

    Death as far as I can figure in this game is Negative Energy. They fixed it, get over it Francis -

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKDragonLord View Post
    not to mention, critical bursts are always inferior to damage per hit.
    Halt Undead scrolls disagree with you.

    Now, if you happen to get your hands on a +5 Holy/Holy Burst Maul/Greatclub/Quarterstaff of Greater Undead Bane, then by all means, use it. I haven't found one yet, unfortunately. With mindless undead being both vulnerable to Halt Undead and fairly common, the burst/blast damage is actually very relevant if it's the right type.

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