Why "Completionist" shouldn't be free (imo)

[Wizzly_Bear]

Yes, it is true that they recieve a lot of "free" class feats from all thier past lives. Why do they get a free one you ask for each past life? Answer: They earned it. So once you hit completionist, the single longest goal in the game currently, why must they spend a slot for the feat?

Yes, but it is overpowered as is for a free feat. I think it should be free, but only if it is changed to +1s.

PS I snipped the first part because all builds and characters have tough feat choices, not just Completionists.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I hate TRs.

I think they were a cheap attempt to get us to not ask for Epic lvls.

And I think now they are a major stumbling block to Epic lvls in the future.

I hate that you lose Tomes and completions, and especially favor.

And I hate that anyone who does not TR will have a gimped char, as they will now need to "balance" future difficulties based on it.


I have not re-leveled up a single TR yet.....heck, I have tons of alts who have never been lvled up once yet.





However, I still think that you should get Completionist for free.
If you have grinded that much, for something that may be taken away from you in the future.....you deserve it for free IMO.

[Wizzly_Bear]

However, I still think that you should get Completionist for free.
If you have grinded that much, for something that may be taken away from you in the future.....you deserve it for free IMO.

This is everyone's main argument for it being free, and I empathize with it, but roughly 55% of me is against it being free as I feel it is overpowered (when coupled with the "free" passive past life feats) as a free feat. Unless I see anything new, my last word on this matter is that I think it should be free, but should be bumped down to +1s. Otherwise it should not be free. To those who feel it should be free as is, I respectfully disagree.

PS Happy hunting to all us potential future Completionists, and max grats to those who already have it

[Talon_Moonshadow]

This is everyone's main argument for it being free, and I empathize with it, but roughly 55% of me is against it being free as I feel it is overpowered (when coupled with the "free" passive past life feats) as a free feat. Unless I see anything new, my last word on this matter is that I think it should be free, but should be bumped down to +1s. Otherwise it should not be free. To those who feel it should be free as is, I respectfully disagree.

PS Happy hunting to all us potential future Completionists, and max grats to those who already have it

Actually, I wish it was not in the game at all.

[netops]

I agree that the feat should be free, however, I would rather see a passive completionist feat the grants an extra feat, effectively making the completionist feat free/or allowing additional flexibility in that final toon.

As for completionist keeping Tombs, given that someone aiming for completionist has probably got their ultimate build in mind, and will have potentially saved up raid Tombs through 11+ TRs ideally they should be allowed to keep them. If this is not possible I see 3 alternatives that could minimise the penalty:

1. When an extra class is released, a completionist gets an option to 'save' their current character, TR into the new one and TR back once level 20 is achieved. Thereby maintaining their title and ‘final’ character.

2. Once competionist is achieved you don't loose the title/benefits when a new class is released (bypassing the issue entirely).

3. When an ex-completionist is forced to TR into a new class to re-gain their title they get a +4 tomb of their choice to help mitigate the loss of previous tombs. This is 'consumed' at level 1 and kicks-in in the same manner as other resurrections (+1 @ lvl 3, +2 @ lvl 7 etc.).